Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Welcome to Crawl space I'm Tim here today with Lance Lance how are you today.

I'm doing fantastic today Tim great to be today with you, Lance, Lance, how are you today?

I'm doing fantastic today, Tim.

Great to be back in this seat behind the microphone

with you on the other side of this Riverside screen,

with a guest who is an old friend of the show, super successful journalist,

really digs in on the topics that come to him and he's never lacking with his

passion. But Tim I want to dig into your mood. How are you today?

What's going on, sir? Not much. I'm doing great over here. Thanks a lot for

asking. Yeah, very excited to introduce this conversation that we had with I'll say it Lance

legendary journalist Steve Fishman and this is his new podcast he has done several in the past

including the runaway hit Empire on Blood, but this one is called

my friend the serial killer and it's a very interesting story about Steve and his relationship with serial killer Robert F. Carr the third.

So it's definitely a show you want to check out and really had an interesting conversation with him.

Yeah, we did span quite a number of topics in this

conversation because at this point we're like old buds with Steve. His company orbitmedia is

fantastic you can go to orbitmedia.

F.m. and you can check out all the work and you mentioned Tim.

He had the runaway hit, The Fantastic Show Empire on Blood, that's also being re-released.

With some new information and sort of like a director's cut so to speak.

If you haven't listened to Empire on Blood, give it a shot for the first time.

If you have, check out the re-release for all the new nuggets that came his way in the meantime.

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