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The SelfWork Podcast

457 SelfWork: How To Be Enough: A Conversation with Ellen Hendriksen

The SelfWork Podcast

Margaret Robinson Rutherford PhD

Education, Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Self-improvement

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

How To Be Enough, a new book by Ellen Hendriksen is a must-read for anyone struggling with perfectionism and shame. She's a clinical psychologist at Boston University Center for Anxiety and Related Disorders, and the author of a new book, How to Be Enough: Self-Acceptance for Self-Critics and Perfectionists. She's already a very successful author having published the book How To Be Yourself in 2018 on conquering social anxiety. And I was incredibly interested in talking with her because we are obviously both very concerned about rising perfectionism. She states: "Perfectionism isn't about striving to be perfect. It's about never feeling good enough." Our Sponsors: * Check out BetterHelp and use my code betterhelp.com for a great deal: https://www.betterhelp.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0

This is self-work, and I'm Dr. Margaret Rutherford.

0:10.3

At self-work, we discuss psychological and emotional issues and what you can do about them,

0:15.7

whether that's learning self-acceptance, taking action, or seeking therapy or treatment.

0:21.3

Eight years ago, I extended the walls of my practice to reach those of you who might already be

0:26.1

knowledgeable about mental health treatment, but also to those of you who might say you'd never

0:31.3

darken the door of a therapist. And yet, you are here. I'll answer your questions while I invite

0:37.1

you to take a few minutes for your

0:39.1

own self-work. I don't love putting my struggle of weaknesses out there and at the same time

0:49.5

when I do inevitably it leads to more connection and leads to reactions not of rejection

1:00.4

or criticism or pity, but of, oh my gosh, thank goodness, me too.

1:06.1

Welcome to this week's edition of Self-Work.

1:10.5

I'm delighted today to introduce to you Ellen Hendrickson.

1:14.4

She's a clinical psychologist at Boston University's Center for Anxiety and Related Disorders

1:19.2

and the author of How to Be Yourself, Quiet Your Inner Critic and Rise Above Social Anxiety.

1:25.9

So you know I was incredibly interested in talking with her because we are obviously both very concerned about the rising perfectionism.

1:34.3

And I loved the way she actually defined perfectionism.

1:38.3

Privately, you may feel like you're falling behind, faking it or different from everybody else.

1:43.3

Your eagle-eyed,

1:44.5

inner quality control inspector highlights every mistake. You try hard to avoid criticism,

1:49.9

but criticize yourself. Getting it right is your guiding light, but it's lit the way to a place

1:55.1

of dissatisfaction, loneliness, or disconnection. And of course, you know I take that even further

2:00.4

with my idea perfectly in depression.

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