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The Guilty Feminist

457. ROAD TO GILEAD: The Fight Back for Gender Justice with Alison Spittle and Chiara Capraro

The Guilty Feminist

The Spontaneity Shop

Comedy

4.912.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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The Guilty Feminist 457. The Fight Back for Gender Justice Presented by Deborah Frances-White and Alison Spittle with special guest Chiara Capraro Recorded 4 November 2025 at The Pleasance London. Released 17 November. The Guilty Feminist theme composed by Mark Hodge. Get Deborah’s new book with 30% off using the code SIXCONVERSATIONSPOD https://store.virago.co.uk/products/six-conversations-were-scared-to-have Amnesty International is the world’s largest grassroots human rights organisation, working tirelessly to expose human rights abuses, hold power to account, and campaign for a fairer, safer world. We stand stronger together. Join the Amnesty International community and support their work exposing truth, debunking narratives, confronting perpetrators, defending truth-tellers and equipping communities with evidence to demand change: https://donate.giveasyoulive.com/campaign/amnesty-guilty-feminist-november-2025 More about Deborah Frances-White https://deborahfrances-white.com https://www.instagram.com/dfdubz https://www.virago.co.uk/titles/deborah-frances-white/six-conversations-were-scared-to-have/9780349015811 https://www.virago.co.uk/titles/deborah-frances-white/the-guilty-feminist/9780349010120 More about Jessica Fostekew https://www.instagram.com/jessicafostekew More about Chiara Capraro https://www.amnesty.org.uk/amnesty-uk-spokespeople https://www.linkedin.com/in/chiaracapraro For more information about this and other episodes… visit https://www.guiltyfeminist.com tweet us https://www.twitter.com/guiltfempod like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/guiltyfeminist check out our Instagram https://www.instagram.com/theguiltyfeminist or join our mailing list http://www.eepurl.com/bRfSPT More Big Speeches workshops now available https://guiltyfeminist.com/big-speeches/ Come to a live show Bill Murray, 23 November https://link.dice.fm/F147b081b51d Russell T Davies at Soho Theatre https://sohotheatre.com/events/the-guilty-feminist-9/ Thank you to our amazing Patreon supporters. To support the podcast yourself, go to https://www.patreon.com/guiltyfeminist You can also get an ad-free version of the podcast via Apple Podcasts. The Guilty Feminist is part of The AudioPlus Network. If you’d like to work with us, please get in touch at hello@weareaudioplus.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

How's the business going? We're busier than ever, but struggling to get the staff we need. Recruiting can be such a distraction. We gave Job Centre Plus a try, and they've really helped us out. Really? Yeah. It was dead easy. We got our own employer advisor, Julie, who helped advertise our jobs, shortlisted candidates for us and letters interview at the Job Centre. We've hired some great people, and Job Centre Plus really took the hassle out of it

0:21.7

and there was no fee. Brilliant. That's straight on my to-do list. Find out more at business.gov.

0:26.7

UK slash recruit. Eligibility criteria apply. I'm a feminist but recently I met a doctor at a party

0:32.8

and he told me he does cosmetic procedures and he was gossiping a bit and he said to me that a certain

0:40.3

famous A-list celebrity who looks quite done, he said, she tells her friends that she's never

0:47.9

had Botox and she says that with a straight face. And I said, well, what choice does she have?

0:56.6

And I really enjoyed that moment. I thought that's not very sisterly of me I know but you had to go for the joke yeah I

1:01.5

will always kick my gender under the bus to make a man laugh especially one with her doctorate

1:10.1

I mean I mean I did I was hoping it offered me a free treatment if especially one with her doctorate.

1:15.9

I mean, I was hoping it offered me a free treatment if I was charming enough.

1:16.6

Oh, absolutely.

1:17.2

Yeah.

1:22.4

I mean, I don't want anything invasive, but just something that's a bit, you know, I like a lifting treatment.

1:27.4

You know, something that's like where they pick a fight with your collagen so it gets up and dances. Yeah, like I love that.

1:30.1

You were, you were, I'm saying, you were being charming to this person at a party for a

1:35.2

cosmetic procedure. It's like someone being charming to someone at a party because they have

1:40.0

Coke. Do you know what I mean? It's like, I'm cool. I'm really chill. I'm a feminist

1:45.8

but I watched girl bands forever the other day. Incredible viewing. It's a documentary

1:51.6

about the history of girl bands. At the end of it though, I was quite sad because there wasn't

1:57.5

enough bitching in it for my taste.

2:00.6

They were all too nice about each other. I thought there'd be more bitching in it for my taste I thought they thought they'd be more bitching I just did I was like five girl bands come on I'm a feminist but I've just runs my flies down beautiful there we are and I'm on camera and it's looking right yep clip it Tom excellent Iip it, Tom. Excellent. I'm a feminist.

2:18.3

Yeah.

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