You're going to be here. Welcome back to Missing. I am Tim here today with Lance. How are you today?

I'm doing fantastic today Tim. I'm very very today with Lance, Lance, Lance, how are you today?

I'm doing fantastic today, Tim.

I'm very, very excited about this conversation.

I always get excited about conversations

that I'm not a part of, and I get to hear for the first time.

This is a conversation that you had with a fellow podcaster in the business and for some reason

that I can't remember I was not able to join.

So you had this great conversation, you were happy about it, and I'm just like a listener now. So I'm going to take a seat

Wait for the commercial break to pass and listen to you in this fine gentleman

Great. Oh, how are you? I'm doing all right. Thanks a lot for asking and yeah,

Javier and I spoke about a series he did on his podcast called Pretend and you can check out what he's got going on on his

website at pretend radio.org but you can also find him out there on social

media and we spoke about his grave detector series which is about the controversial

forensic anthropologist Arpad Voss and we've spoken about Arpad Voss on these airwaves in the past and really you just got to check out

Hobbyier's series on the grave detector because he digs deep into Arpad's history of inventing these devices that our pad

claims would change the course of crime detecting and so one angle that is looked at in

Javier's series is that if our pad is full of crap or not and I mean I think it's really interesting and I think it's really

fitting for our listeners on the missing show because I know we have some families of missing people who

listen as well and I think this is extremely important for them to hear.

Yeah, always important to look out for the charlatans,

that old snake oil salesman notion, that concept still exists out there and these individuals,

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