Waterways Travel.com is your surf travel concierge. You know how you usually consult with a friend who has been to a

destination before you go there. You get recommendations for where to stay, where to surf, what the surf

conditions are like, etc. Well, Waterways is that friend. And better yet, they'll hook you up with a deal

because they know the owners and the operators. They've been doing this since 1994, from South

Africa to Central America, to Indonesia, and almost anywhere in the surfing world in between.

Sean Murphy and his team have been going to these spots

multiple times a year to fully understand the ins and outs of every season. And since the 90s,

they were responsible for organizing magazine trips, photo shoots for the brands for so many of the

trips that you and I read about and watched surf video parts that were generated

from those trips. So there's no sense in you trying to reinvent the wheel or to rely on

questionable intel, just rely on the experts. Go to waterwaystravel.com and ask away. They will

get you dialed in for any time of year, any budget, strike mission, or making

plans for next year's family trip. Go to waterwaystravel.com. And as always, realwatersports.

We always talk about their vast array of surfboards and surfboard video tutorials as well, which are great,

but they also carry anything and everything else that you would need.

Clothing, wetsuits, traction, accessories, and they offer free shipping on most orders over $99.

So of course, check them out for any surfboard purchases, but also in the interim,

consider them your local retailer. They have world-class customer service. They have a huge inventory of everything that you need for everyone in your family for every season. And again, it ships for free. So, go to realwatersports.com. You can click through the site and figure it out on your own. They also have a live chat function. And of course, they have a phone number. You can pick up, call. They'll answer any questions you might have.

We love them. They're a great partner of ours. So realwatersports.com. Enjoy. Welcome back to part two of my conversation with Chris Malloy. We ended episode one with

Chris injured from a wave at pipeline.

The year was 1997. It was just after the sun had set. The lifeguards had gone home.

Dave Cantrell helped Chris up the beach, where he had a conversation that would shift the trajectory

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