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Public Health On Call

455 - The Public Health Consequences of Russia's Disinformation About Ukraine's Biosecure Labs

Public Health On Call

The Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

Medicine, News, Health & Fitness

4.6644 Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2022

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Russia has claimed that the US and Ukraine were working on bioweapons in labs across Ukraine, dangerous disinformation being used in part to justify the Russian invasion. Biosecurity expert Gigi Gronvall returns to the podcast to talk with Lindsay Smith Rogers about the dangers of this disinformation, the attempted cover-up of a 1979 bioweapons anthrax accident in Russia, why biosecure labs are so critical to public health, and the potential impacts of this disinformation campaign.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Season 5 of Public Health On Call, a podcast from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

0:13.0

I'm Joshua Sharfstein, Vice Dean for Public Health Practice and Community Engagement, and a former

0:19.1

health commissioner here in Baltimore, Maryland.

0:21.7

Our goal with this podcast is to bring scientific evidence and experience to shed light on critical

0:27.5

health issues. If you have questions or ideas for us, please send an email to public health

0:33.0

question at jhhhu.edu. That's public health question at jhhut.edu for future podcast episodes.

0:42.2

Hi, I'm Lindsay Smith-Rogers, producer of public health on call. Today, I speak with Dr. Gigi

0:47.3

Granval about the public health consequences of Russia's disinformation that the U.S. and Ukraine

0:52.6

were working on bio-weapons in labs across Ukraine. We also discuss Russia's disinformation that the U.S. and Ukraine were working on bio-weapons in labs across Ukraine.

0:56.4

We also discussed Russia's deadly 1979 bioweapons accident and why biosecure labs are

1:02.9

critically important to public health. Let's listen.

1:06.6

Gigi Granball, thanks so much for joining us today.

1:09.1

Thank you. It's great to be here.

1:10.6

So today we're going to talk about the public health consequences of Russia's disinformation

1:14.5

about Ukrainian labs. So the Russian government has claimed that the U.S. and Ukraine were

1:20.2

working on bioweapons and labs across Ukraine. And this is really dangerous. And part of what

1:26.0

makes it so dangerous is that there actually are these critical biosecure labs in Ukraine.

1:30.5

So tell us about these labs and where they came from and what they actually do.

1:34.8

Sure.

1:35.2

So there are labs like anywhere.

1:38.5

There are labs that do public health work, diagnostic work in Ukraine and other places.

1:47.4

And when let me first talk about the Russian accusations. So when they first made these accusations, it was horrifying because they have

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