Hello and welcome to best case, worst case.

This is Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler, former New York City Prosecutor and writer, producer

of Criminal Minds, and Bluebeard on Audible.

And with me today is, Maureen O'Connell, a 25-year veteran with the FBI in the Los Angeles Division.

And with us today is a very special guest again.

I'm Dale Monroe, 27-year FBI agent after eight years of the Marine Corps and just many, many divisions.

But happy to be here.

You did a lot of moving around in the FBI, huh?

A legend.

Yes.

Yeah.

Well, Dale, we appreciate you coming back, and I understand you have another thing you wanted

to talk to us about.

Where were you in your career when this came up?

Well, this was also in the beginning.

It was in the Tampa Division,

1987-ish around that period.

And I happened to be on a drug reactive squad, excuse me, drug organized crime squad.

And the squad that I was on, there were only two of us new agents that were on that squad.

The other eight agents were all New York organized crime guys that had O.P. Tampa, but they spent most of

their years in New York working against, you know, Gambino, Bonano, all the, all the

Gondi and all the, all the, the five families. And, and they, they had some great success.

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