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Michael and Us

#454 - The Liberal Imagination

Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan

Tv & Film

4.6668 Ratings

🗓️ 23 August 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Released in the middle of the Obama era, George Clooney's THE IDES OF MARCH (2011) has a lot to tell us about a time when the horizons of possibility were contracting. That's right, folks - it's time to have fun with a good, old-fashioned Politics Movie™. Join us on Patreon for an extra episode every week - https://www.patreon.com/michaelandus

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0:00.0

Now, coming hot off our last episode, I have to say, I was a little surprised by some of the feedback we got over a rather aserbic review of the third installment in the Clerks trilogy.

0:18.2

I said in that episode that that film basically did not connect with me

0:22.7

and I did not connect with it on any level, despite Will's constant assurances that, no, the first

0:29.8

clerk's film is actually good. You know, in spite of everything, if you watched it, you'd have a

0:34.6

good time, et cetera, et cetera. But I could tell in the feedback we got

0:39.0

that, like, clerks does mean something to some people. There were a lot of people who agreed,

0:44.5

like, I don't think people got too defensive over Clerks III, but there were a lot of people

0:48.8

who very much had your experience with the movie rather than mine, which is to say, you know,

0:53.5

they were kind of saddened by

0:55.3

Clerks 3, you know, because it was such a degeneration from the original, whereas I just found

1:00.8

the entire thing totally illegible. Well, like I said on the last episode, I'm sad, I'm not losing

1:06.9

sleep over it, but I'm slightly sad that the clerk's well has probably been poisoned for you,

1:12.4

because I do very earnestly believe that if you saw the first one, you would like it.

1:16.8

Watching the third one, Christ, for the second time, I was struck again by how the convenience

1:22.1

store in the movie, the metaphor, what the convenience store means has changed so much. Like in the first movie,

1:30.1

the convenience store was purgatory. The convenience store was simply a commercial space where

1:35.8

these overeducated, under ambitious guys trapped in this sort of malaise. That's where they were

1:41.9

fated to be. And all the pop culture stuff, you know,

1:45.2

that's them getting a little bit of relief during these agonizing days working at the convenience

1:49.8

store. I don't think we quite addressed this, but in Clerks 3, during the end credits,

1:55.2

Kevin Smith, like, his voice appears. Like, Kevin Smith is heard doing a five-minute monologue during the end credits,

2:02.9

giving some of his thoughts. And among what he says, he says that his perspective has changed.

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