Suicidal thoughts are among the most terrifying and taboo experiences a person can have.

For some, they stem from a deep emotional pain and the desire to end their suffering,

and for others, they are intrusive, unwanted, deeply ego-dustonic hallmarks of suicidal OCD.

But how can you tell the difference and how can you respond with compassion, skill, and care

when it's happening?

Today I'm joined by the incredibly brave and insightful Tracy Ibrahim, also known as Tabu Tracy, an advocate and survivor who has lived experience

with both suicidal OCD and real suicidal ideation. Together, we're peeling back the stigma and

breaking down the critical differences because some lives truly depend on it. Welcome to your anxiety toolkit.

I'm your host, Kimberly Quinlan.

This podcast is for all things, anxiety, OCD, BFRBs,

a space to give you mindfulness-based skills and science-backed resources

that you can bring into your recovery journey.

So let's get started.

Thank you, Tracy, for being here.

Thank you for having me.

This is like my most favorite stuff to talk about.

So I'm really glad that we're talking about it.

Yeah.

So I first want to just like say this is a touchy topic.

It's a really difficult topic for even me to even address because

there is so much suffering around this topic. And I want to do it with care. I know people

want to do it with care and people are really, really suffering. So just for us together,

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