Welcome to episode 454 How to Make Your Marriage Easier with Natalie Clay.

We all know a good marriage requires work, but have you ever wondered what that work actually is or how to do it?

I have today I've got an expert who also happens to be my sister Natalie Clay who's been coaching couples for the past eight years. She's a highly

sought after a marriage coach who works with couples

together and as individuals and today she's here to help us better understand what the

work is and how to do it. You'll learn why Natalie believes traditional counseling

or therapy is usually not the best way to approach the problems in your

marriage, what to do if your spouse isn't open to getting help and why she says this makes perfect sense and

how to disagree without fighting. Let's do this. Welcome to Better Than Happy. I'm Jody Moore and I'll be your coach today.

What's up, Nat's? Hello, Jody Moore. You always call me Jody Moore.

Because you are. Jody Moore.

I know that because people say,

you're Jody Moore's sister and like yes yes I am.

Well they say the same to me they say I love having Natalie Clay back in the lab. I know they say, oh, the hot sister, Natalie Clay, right?

The hot sister. That's right. I want to do a class in the lab called Hot Girl Summer.

Do you think that would be offensive to people?

Maybe just to me.

I probably won't call it that.

But I don't know.

Podcast listeners, let us know. what I want it to be about is style it could be

decluttering your closet or it could be updating your wardrobe or I don't know I just think I'm having fun with clothes.

Anyway, that's off topic.

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