Dr. Mark Gaffney, welcome back to the podcast. Thank you very, very much, sir. It is good to be here,

and we are in, God, what number? I don't even know the number. We should know the number.

Well, I guess, I guess it'll be on the name of the podcast, the number, but we are at,

I don't know, something like number eight, like the eighth face of Eros.

Could well be.

The eighth face of Eros, right?

And these faces of Eros are all the way up and all the way down, right?

And they operate at the molecular level.

They operate at the metabolic level, molecular, the world of matter,

the metabolic, the world of cells, all the way up into the human world. And they are the

structural qualities of cosmos itself. That is to say, we live in a cosmoerotic universe,

not as a metaphor, not as a poetic claim, but as the scientific prose of reality's text.

That's where we live.

So today we're going to talk about this particular quality of Eros, which is the

fundamental identity between giving and receiving. And really, really have to go back,

actually, because really the first quality is gifting.

And the second quality is giving and receiving.

There's really two distinct qualities that we're talking about.

So, so what is gifting?

Let's start there.

So gifting is this very strange quality.

Gifting is this sense and reality that I am willing to, but the word will is a desire word.

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