All the Empire Podcasts this week, Winter is coming! Alex Windr, as we chat to the

director of the new Frank Sapper documentary, Sapper. And if Windr is coming, it's a good

time to go ice-skating, so we talk to a man who is very firm fuse on such, particularly

art of ice-skating uphill coming to America star Wesley Snipes, oh yes indeed, all that

and more. On the movie podcast, that is slightly disappointed that Marvel didn't use it

suggest a title for Spider-Man 3. I don't know what was wrong with Spider-Man, Star Trek

4, The Foyte's Home, apparently had already been taken or something, some sort of legal

difficulties, who knows, who knows. Anyway, Halopod, I'm Chris Huitt and welcome to the

Empire Podcast back in my evil underground lair in London this week after my sojourn.

To Scotland last week, oh not Scotland, I shouldn't give away, oh I'm a Scotland. Anyway,

this week I'm joined by three colleagues of such lethal cunning once again, GeekQueen

Helen O'Hara, great big fucking nerve, James Dyer. Yes, yes. And the best thing to come

out of Swindon since XTC, Beth Webb. Hello. I'm very well, thank you. Is our XTC, is that

like Swindon's most famous export? Well no, Billy Piper is. Billy Piper. What's an

XTC? What is XTC? It's the sort of glam punk band from the 70s. Yeah, that's a big fan.

No, Billy Piper. Billy Piper was a few years ahead of me at a brain and four-school,

Swindon. So she is probably the biggest thing in my eyes. I take it back. Yeah, Billy Piper

dwarfs XTs, who? Mark Lamar. Mark Lamar. Melinda Messager. But they sure are Fox. She was

born in Swindon. Well, she knows an awful lot about people who came from Swindon. Like,

I couldn't tell you who came from Pinnah. Was this Swindon proud, didn't it? You just got

a... Oh no, I can. I can. So Pinnah, the sinner from Pinnah, Jane March, obviously came from

Pinnah. Do you remember this? Yes. No. Yes. No, it's probably from the lover and the colour of

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