453: Javier Peña and Steve Murphy | Taking Down Pablo Escobar
The Jordan Harbinger Show
Jordan Harbinger
4.8 • 12.3K Ratings
🗓️ 7 January 2021
⏱️ 74 minutes
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Summary
Javier Peña and Steve Murphy (@deanarcos) are former DEA agents best known for bringing down Colombian drug kingpin Pablo Escobar in the '90s, as dramatized on the first two seasons of Netflix series Narcos and chronicled in their book Manhunters: How We Took Down Pablo Escobar.
What We Discuss with Javier Peña and Steve Murphy:- How do you conduct an effective investigation against a murderous yet charismatic criminal on their home turf with a $300,000 bounty on your head?
- Why was there such friction between the DEA and the CIA during the Pablo Escobar investigation?
- Why do countries like Mexico and Colombia resist extradition to the United States when we catch a big fish drug trafficker?
- Have Javier and Steve been back to Colombia since bringing down Pablo Escobar, or do they still have to fear for their lives there?
- Do Javier and Steve see the permanent dismantling of drug cartels as a possibility, or are they too entrenched in the infrastructure of the countries where they thrive?
- And much more...
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