This is Steva Robbins. Welcome to the Get It Done Guys quick and dirty tips to work less and do more.

Today I'm here with Kim Scott, the author of the new book, Radical Cander, and she's going to tell us how the truth can set us free.

Hi, this is Stiever Robbins, and welcome to the Get It Done Guy podcast.

Thank you so much. It's great to be here today.

So I have to tell you that I actually believe that I know your secret.

What is my secret? I'm not sure I know my secret.

Well, if you did, it wouldn't be much of a secret, would it now?

The very first musical that I was ever in was Evil Dead, the Musical, and the demons

that come to life and take over people's bodies and turn them into zombies are called

Candorian Demons.

Oh, my goodness.

So you may not have made the connection, but it was very clear to me.

When I read the book, I'm like, mm-hmm,

Candorian demons, radical candor. Were these candorian demons evil, or were they good?

Well, you know, I strongly believe that every demon mother would deem her child or his child's behavior appropriate. So I would have to say it depends on perspective, and maybe

that's one of the things you can help us understand here today.

Perfect. Well, so hopefully radical candor is not a demonic idea. The very simplest way

to describe radical candor is it's the ability to care personally about somebody at the same time that you challenge

them directly. You're not doing people any favors at all if they're making a mistake and you know it

and you don't tell them. So I think a simple way to explain radical candor is to explain what it's not. So when you,

when you do care, but you don't challenge, that is ruinous empathy. That's not radical candor.

When you do challenge, but you don't care, that is obnoxious aggression. That's sort of front-stabbing, brutal honesty,

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