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🗓️ 12 May 2025
⏱️ 63 minutes
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In this episode, Mark Groves dives deep into the intersection of health, personal sovereignty, and systemic deception with Brian Sanders, founder of the Sapien Center and creator of the "Food Lies" documentary series. Together, they peel back the layers of societal conditioning around nutrition, medicine, and authority—challenging the legitimacy of mainstream narratives about health, pharmaceutical intervention, and government control. Mark and Brian share personal awakenings that led them to reject hollow paradigms—from the food pyramid to pharma-driven healthcare—in favor of a return to foundational, ancestral principles of nourishment, movement, nature, and authentic community. With compelling anecdotes, sharp insights, and a powerful call to reclaim individual agency, this conversation is a radical invitation to question everything and live more intentionally, rooted in what it truly means to be human.
Brian Sanders is the filmmaker behind the Food Lies documentary, host of the top 5 nutrition podcast Peak Human, and an international speaker. He graduated from UCLA with a degree in Mechanical Engineering. He’s the founder of Sapien Center, a popular health club in Austin. He also works to spread the awareness of regenerative agriculture and increase access to well-raised animal products through his nationwide meat & body care company Nose to Tail.
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to another episode of the Mark Gross podcast. I have done such a deep dive in the last couple of years. And if you've been following the podcast for a while, you know that I've added a lot more content that's related to nutrition and diet and our bodies. Because this is your home. The light force that pours through you is important. And I had to remind |
0:23.8 | myself of that, that of course what I put in my body matters, you know, smashing a bunch of booze |
0:30.8 | and then the next morning having a spicy chicken combo from Wendy's, although can be a fun time, |
0:40.6 | I also recognize that I actually just don't feel better doing that. And, you know, where some really big light bulbs came up years ago |
0:47.5 | before, you know, probably 11 years ago, was talking to my friend Dan. And I was saying to him |
0:53.7 | that I wanted to meet somebody you know meet a person |
0:57.0 | that I could be in relationship with and he said to me well where do you think you're going to meet |
1:03.7 | them and I said well you know I get fear of missing out if I don't go out so I was at that time I was |
1:08.9 | going out like once seriously a week, like going out |
1:12.7 | harder drinking or, you know, maybe twice. And he said to me, because I thought, well, if I don't go |
1:19.8 | out tonight, then I might miss on meeting my person. And he said to me, you know, out of all the |
1:25.4 | times you've been out in your life, how many times is that? And I'm like, ah, I don't know, probably a thousand. |
1:30.3 | I wasn't sure. |
1:31.5 | It's a lot, though. |
1:32.7 | And he said, out of all those nights you've been out, how many times have you met someone that you ended up in a significant, serious relationship with? |
1:42.5 | And I thought, once. Yeah, maybe twice. And he was like, okay, what do you |
1:50.0 | give up when you do that? And I was like, wow, I trade getting up early, hiking, doing things I love, |
1:57.1 | being in nature. And he said to me, what do you think the chances are that you'll meet someone you resonate |
2:02.1 | with doing that? |
2:03.6 | And I remember feeling a lot like getting smashed by a cosmic two by four thinking, |
2:10.9 | oh yeah, that's, that's, I've got this all wrong. |
2:15.7 | So the journey into understanding why we make those choices and what those choices do in our lives and also the large misconceptions about health. |
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