452: Payton McNabb—Enough of This Crap!
The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe
The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe
4.9 • 40.8K Ratings
🗓️ 30 September 2025
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
Mike sits down with former high school volleyballer Payton McNabb, who was knocked unconscious by a spike to the face, delivered by a male competing on the girls' team, and woke up in the middle of a national controversy. What followed wasn't just a concussion and long-term neurological damage. It was a brutal, firsthand lesson in biology, politics, and the high cost of pretending that reality is up for debate.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey guys, it's the way I heard it. I'm Mike Rowe, and this episode is called Peyton McNabb. |
| 0:08.7 | Enough of this crap, and to be perfectly clear right out of the gate. |
| 0:13.3 | Chuck, I'm not quoting our guest. |
| 0:15.8 | I am merely projecting my frustration onto her situation and speaking on what I think could well be the behalf |
| 0:24.4 | of many, many other Americans who have had it up to here with this nonsense. |
| 0:28.8 | Well, certainly this American, and I've had it as well. |
| 0:31.5 | The point is the crap to which you refer is men and boys playing women's and girls sports. No thank you. Enough. |
| 0:41.5 | Actually, one small tweak to that. What I've had it with is the gingerness and the tiptoeing. |
| 0:50.8 | And I'm afraid and hopeful, if I'm being honest, that we are going to live long enough to look back and see what a colossal failing this has been on the part of our country and on the part of decent, rational, compassionate, kind-hearted people who just acquiesced |
| 1:16.6 | and became the townspeople in the emperor's new clothes and just sat there and watched |
| 1:25.6 | while this dialogue spun out of control, |
| 1:30.3 | and where otherwise reasonable people actually began to weigh in around a science-based conversation |
| 1:37.9 | and just twisted themselves into knots trying to make it plausible |
| 1:43.3 | that men and women should compete against one another |
| 1:47.3 | in sports. |
| 1:49.2 | Yeah. |
| 1:49.4 | What a madness. |
| 1:51.4 | The madness of crowds. |
| 1:53.7 | That's how this is going to be remembered, I think. |
| 1:56.0 | And, man, just listening to Peyton tell her story and watching the video of her getting creamed in the face by a volleyball. |
| 2:05.6 | She was really hurt. |
| 2:06.7 | She was really hurt. |
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