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The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

452: Payton McNabb—Enough of This Crap!

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

Society & Culture, History

4.839.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Mike sits down with former high school volleyballer Payton McNabb, who was knocked unconscious by a spike to the face, delivered by a male competing on the girls' team, and woke up in the middle of a national controversy. What followed wasn't just a concussion and long-term neurological damage. It was a brutal, firsthand lesson in biology, politics, and the high cost of pretending that reality is up for debate.

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0:00.0

Hey guys, it's the way I heard it. I'm Mike Rowe, and this episode is called Peyton McNabb.

0:08.7

Enough of this crap, and to be perfectly clear right out of the gate.

0:13.3

Chuck, I'm not quoting our guest.

0:15.8

I am merely projecting my frustration onto her situation and speaking on what I think could well be the behalf

0:24.4

of many, many other Americans who have had it up to here with this nonsense.

0:28.8

Well, certainly this American, and I've had it as well.

0:31.5

The point is the crap to which you refer is men and boys playing women's and girls sports. No thank you. Enough.

0:41.5

Actually, one small tweak to that. What I've had it with is the gingerness and the tiptoeing.

0:50.8

And I'm afraid and hopeful, if I'm being honest, that we are going to live long enough to look back and see what a colossal failing this has been on the part of our country and on the part of decent, rational, compassionate, kind-hearted people who just acquiesced

1:16.6

and became the townspeople in the emperor's new clothes and just sat there and watched

1:25.6

while this dialogue spun out of control,

1:30.3

and where otherwise reasonable people actually began to weigh in around a science-based conversation

1:37.9

and just twisted themselves into knots trying to make it plausible

1:43.3

that men and women should compete against one another

1:47.3

in sports.

1:49.2

Yeah.

1:49.4

What a madness.

1:51.4

The madness of crowds.

1:53.7

That's how this is going to be remembered, I think.

1:56.0

And, man, just listening to Peyton tell her story and watching the video of her getting creamed in the face by a volleyball.

2:05.6

She was really hurt.

2:06.7

She was really hurt.

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