452 Body Dysmorphic Disorder: What Actually Helps (and What Makes It Worse) with Chris Trondsen Two Courses: Your BDD Toolkit and The Clinician's BDD Toolkit
Your Anxiety Toolkit - Practical Skills for Anxiety, Panic & Depression
Kimberley Quinlan, LMFT | Anxiety & OCD Specialist
4.9 • 882 Ratings
🗓️ 24 September 2025
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
BDD expert Chris Tronsden joins Kimberley to unpack how distorted perception and compulsive rituals drive Body Dysmorphic Disorder—and the evidence-based skills (perceptual retraining, BDD-specific ERP, CBT/ACT, and thoughtful medication) that actually help people reclaim connection and quality of life.
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| 0:00.0 | All right, well, I am so excited for this episode. |
| 0:06.6 | This is an episode we have been planning for months. |
| 0:09.8 | So let me give you guys just a little background because you're getting the hot scoop |
| 0:15.0 | here on your anxiety toolkit podcast. |
| 0:18.8 | About a year ago, my amazing friend Chris Tronzin and I had a conversation |
| 0:23.1 | about how I would love for him to join us at CBT School to train our clinicians |
| 0:30.7 | and people who are suffering with BDD, body dysmorphic disorder. Chris, I consider to be an expert, probably the best |
| 0:40.9 | clinician I would say in the world in this area, an amazing advocate for folks with BDD. And he said, |
| 0:49.3 | yes. So, for those of you who don't know, I have Chris here with me. Thank you so much, Chris, for being here. |
| 0:56.0 | Yes, thank you so much. That was the sweetest intro, by the way. Thank you so much. I was just going to say, I didn't want to interrupt you, but no, I was so honored. This is your baby. Like, CBT school is like Kimberly Quinlan, right? It's your baby. You've trained so many clinicians, so many people with the disorders have gotten help. |
| 1:12.0 | So when you asked me, I was extremely honored and beyond excited. |
| 1:16.6 | Yes, I was too. And so we are here to talk about BDD, but we're also here to share that a few |
| 1:24.8 | months ago, Chris and I sat down in a hotel room and with all the cameras |
| 1:29.8 | and all the lights and with a raging festival going on next door and recorded for like what |
| 1:38.5 | felt like days and days, like 12 hour days. We did not stop and we did get those courses created. |
| 1:45.1 | Now, we're still finishing up the suffering course, so you will be able to get that. |
| 1:49.1 | But the clinician's VDD toolkit is out. |
| 1:52.9 | You are welcome to check it out if you're a clinician. |
| 1:55.7 | And for those who are sufferers, you can also access Chris teaching you exactly the steps that he takes |
| 2:04.1 | his clients through in treating BDD. So it is gold. You can go over us to CBT school to check |
| 2:10.8 | it out. But today we have Chris wanting to really get you familiar with the topic and get really excited. We're talking |
| 2:19.0 | about what body dysmorphic disorder is, what actually helps and what makes it worse. So thank you, |
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