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Shameless Sex

#451 F-ing vs. Making Love: What's the Difference?

Shameless Sex

Amy Baldwin

Self-improvement, Sexuality, Health & Fitness, Education

4.32.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Beyond the Bedroom: The Art of F**king vs. Making Love Get ready to dive into the world of intimacy, connection, and unapologetic lovemaking with Erwan and Alicia Davon, the dynamic duo behind the Davon Method. As renowned relationship coaches and Tantra teachers, they're here to dish out the truth on the age-old question: what's the difference between f**king and making love? Here's what you'll learn from this episode: * The fascinating story of how Erwan and Alicia went from individual journeys of self-discovery to creating a revolutionary approach to relationship coaching * The lowdown on the difference between f**king and making love (and why it's not just about semantics) * Alternative terms for "making love" that won't make you roll your eyes (we've got some suggestions!) * How Tantra can transform your sex life (and what it means to f**k Tantrically) * Practical Tantric tools to boost intimacy and connection (no matter your relationship status) * How to apply these tools to your solo practice (yes, singles can get in on the action too!) * A sneak peek into the Davon Method's upcoming offerings (because you'll want to work with them after this episode) By tuning in, you'll gain a deeper understanding of yourself, your desires, and your relationships. Erwan and Alicia's approach is all about creating a safe space for growth, exploration, and fun – and that's exactly what you can expect from this episode. So, what are you waiting for? Join us as we dive into the world of unapologetic lovemaking and discover the secrets to hotter, deeper intimacy and connection. Text (415) 308-9580 for a free consultation, or head to https://davonmethod.com/ to learn more about the Davon Method and their upcoming offerings. About our guests: Erwan & Alicia Davon, longtime Relationship Coaches & San Francisco's foremost Tantra Teachers, developed their signature process, the Davon Method, and have taught it to over 20,000 students in groups, retreats and individual sessions. As a married couple, they have been teaching singles to get into relationship & couples to thrive in relationship for the last 25 years. They have become the go-to place in the San Francisco Bay Area for all things romantic and sexual and are quickly becoming that worldwide through online learning. Get ready to have fun because working with them is a blast! To learn more text (415) 308-9580 for a free consultation, or go to https://davonmethod.com/ Don't forget to mention shameless sex when you sign up for the retreat to get your free session! #336 How to Have the Ultimate Pleasure (and Health) at any Age  #370 How to Repair Sexual Function  And as we said in the intro: can’t make it to Los Gatos? Dr. Castillo also works with people online! AND you get a 15% discount if you mention "Shameless Sex" when scheduling an appointment. Go to https://swanmd.com to learn more. Get premium access to our behind the scenes episodes here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shamelesssex.supportingcast.fm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Do you love us? Do you REALLY love us? Then order ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠our book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ now! Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shamelesssex.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to snag your copy Support Shameless Sex by sending us gifts via our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon Wish List⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Other links: Get 15% off any annual membership at ⁠⁠http://Masterclass.com/shameless⁠ Get 10% off + free shipping with code SHAMELESS on Uberlube AKA our favorite lubricant at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://uberlube.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get 10% off while learning the art of pleasure at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://OMGyes.com/shameless⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get 15% off all of your sex toys with code SHAMELESSSEX at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://purepleasureshop.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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For all of us, right, the thing it often gets in the way is the mind. You know, I'm sort of girlfriend after girlfriend, teaching sex classes, all the rest of this kind of stuff. I was great at fucking. And then for other people, fucking is taboo and not okay and don't even talk about that and making love is fine and, you know, for some people, neither is fine. You the mind is really what gets in the way, mostly.

0:24.8

I'm Amy.

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I'm April, certified sex educators, sex experts of the year, and best-selling authors.

0:31.8

And we're on a mission to help you have more spicy, connected, and amazing, shameless sex.

0:37.9

Welcome to the shameless sex revolution.

0:40.8

We're so close.

0:41.6

We're making sex and relationships shameless.

0:46.9

To learn more, go to shamelesssex.com.

0:49.6

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0:57.0

You were listening to a pleasure podcast.

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For more from our sex podcast collective, visit pleasurepodcasts.com.

1:05.4

Well, hello everyone.

1:06.9

Hey, everybody.

1:08.2

Welcome back to the shameless sex podcast. April, are you ready to revisit

1:14.2

fucking versus making love? What are you doing to this intro? Are you fucking it? Are you making

1:18.8

love to it? I think I'm doing both right now. At the same time? I mean, I learned so much from this.

1:23.5

I can slowly fuck you. I can fuck you hard. I can include tantra. And then fuck. I can find a new

1:30.8

term for making love that freaks you out. And you can actually digest tantra, even if you're

1:35.6

not a wooey human. You can eat it and digest it and then poop it out. No. Too soon.

1:41.0

There's nothing in there about poop. This episode is with the Davons, Alicia and Erwan, Davon.

1:46.7

We still do not remember if this is episode 8, 9, 10.

1:49.8

They've been on our show.

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