And number two is we use what we call an air breathing system.

So as soon as we are inside the atmosphere, we use little electrically powered turbines

to suck air from the atmosphere inside of the heat shield to keep it inflated.

It's really science fiction.

Yeah, it is. It is.

Yeah, for sure.

And the interesting thing is like when you do the math,

the mass savings are immense, right?

So what our goal is really to have, like,

the most lightweight reentry system out there, like in the world.

All right, yeah, lift up, the clock is turned. Three, speed, lift-off. The clock is started.

We need a lift-off, we have a lift-off, we have a lift-off, where we discuss newspace technology, finance, and innovation executors, founders, and more exciting people from the startup and new space ecosystem. I'm Sam Shivara. And I'm Danny Seidel, and together we are the founders of the Earth Subsperation Company, Live Here and New Space Vision. Today's guest is Sebastian Klaus, co-founder and CEO of Atmospace Cargo, who are building capsules for research in space, as well as technology that enabled safe re-entry from space. Welcome to the show, Sebastian. Thanks for having me. So, Sven, you actually, as an intro, have a special story to tell about the topic, correct? Yep, that's correct. When researching, obviously, I see ahead of the podcast, and obviously looking up what you guys are doing and I've come across

your company before.

I remember that I had a book in my bookshelf, which is a book from 1964.

One of my hobbies, 1967, one of my hobbies is collecting old space books and book about the

space industry and I think the oldest one dates to 1920 or so.

And they all speak about what the future might look like and what the future of the space

industry might look like.

And there was one particular book written by Werner von Braun.

Within that there were a couple of pages about how astronauts might come back from Earth

in case the space capsule would have

a defect or so.

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