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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

449. Trauma and the Demolition of Faith | Ronnie Janoff-Bulman

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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🗓️ 16 May 2024

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with social psychologist and author, Ronnie Janoff-Bulman. They discuss how most implicit beliefs are consciously unknown to those who hold them; the human reactions to fear, disgust, pain, and the destruction of hope; why people blame themselves for truly random events; what the experts get wrong about motivation; and the difference between proscriptive and prescriptive morality. Ronnie Janoff-Bulman is Professor Emerita of Psychology and Brain Sciences at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst. She is a social psychologist and the author of two books and over 90 published papers. Her first book, “Shattered Assumptions: Towards a New Psychology of Trauma,” has been cited over 9,500 times. She was awarded a National Science Foundation grant for her research on morality, which serves as the backbone of her recent book, “The Two Moralities: Conservatives, Liberals, and the Roots of Our Political Divide.” She is the recipient of teaching and mentoring awards and is the former editor of Psychological Inquiry, an international journal devoted to advancing theory in psychology. A mother and grandmother, Dr. Janoff-Bulman lives in Amherst, Massachusetts with her husband of over 50 years. - Links - 2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/ For Ronnie Janoff-Bulman: Shattered Assumptions (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Shattered-Assumptions-Towards-Psychology-Trauma/dp/0743236254 The Two Moralities (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Two-Moralities-Conservatives-Liberals-Political-ebook/dp/B0BX1JDL8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=qQoj5&content-id=amzn1.sym.cf86ec3a-68a6-43e9-8115-04171136930a&pf_rd_p=cf86ec3a-68a6-43e9-8115-04171136930a&pf_rd_r=138-3764402-1287437&pd_rd_wg=H5RDI&pd_rd_r=fccdebc5-a090-4e01-b536-33c552e5005f&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk

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The Hello everyone. I'm talking today with Dr. Ronnie Janoff Bowman.

0:20.0

She's a professor emerita at the University of Massachusetts Amherst.

0:27.0

She's a social psychologist and the author of two books, one from about 30 years ago

0:32.6

called Shattered Assumptions,

0:34.8

and the other called the two moralities,

0:38.2

the origin and fall of right and left politics.

0:42.0

Why did I want to talk to Dr. Janoff Bullman?

0:45.0

Well, I'm very interested in both angles of her work.

0:49.7

First, because the notion of shattered assumptions is associated with the idea that there's something

0:58.9

like a hierarchy of values in our beliefs, in the structure of our beliefs, that we have some beliefs that are more fundamental than others.

1:07.0

Those would be beliefs that many other beliefs depend upon.

1:12.0

And so I wanted to talk to her about what it might mean that the

1:16.8

assumptions that orient us in the world are organized hierarchically, right, so that

1:21.9

some things are deep and other things peripheral, and so that the

1:26.2

deep things are in some sense the most real and vital.

1:29.9

All of those topics we're going to talk about in the discussion with Dr. Ronnie Janoff Pullman.

1:37.8

So I'm interested in your two major works.

1:43.0

I want to talk to you about shattered assumptions and I want to talk to you about the political divide.

1:47.5

And I think we'll start with shattered assumptions.

1:49.7

And so why don't you start by letting everybody who's watching and listening know what you were what you meant when you discussed shattered assumptions and why you felt that was a reasonable way of approaching the problem of

2:07.0

traumatic injury, post-traumatic stress disorder, right?

2:13.0

Profound disillusionment, even.

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