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Hello and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories Podcast. I'm your host John DeLin and I'm very excited to have back on our show.

A three guests that you will have listened to hopefully in my three previous episodes. These are the three Interfaith Amigos and that includes Pastor Don McKinsey, Rabbi Ted Falcon and Imam Jamal Rahman.

I spent about 45 minutes with Pastor Don and then a good hour and a half with Rabbi Ted and Imam Jamal. Those interviews are released and we've received incredibly positive feedback on all three.

And as promised, we promised we'd bring back all three of the Interfaith Amigos to have a final discussion.

And so Pastor Don, welcome back to Mormon Stories. Thank you John. And Rabbi Ted, welcome. Thanks. And Imam Jamal, welcome. Thank you so much. Delighted to be on.

Thank you. I know you're all three very busy gentlemen, so let's just dive right in and we'll try and keep this under an hour.

Which one of you sort of was the genesis of the three Interfaith Amigos? Or was it something that came out from a friendship, a mutual friendship? Who can speak to the genesis of the interfaith Amigos?

People don't really believe us but we were three identical triplets separated at birth.

Okay. Actually, I knew Jamal. We were on a board of a group that was trying to form a spiritual university in Seattle. The university never happened.

But when 9-11 happened, Jamal was the first person I called because people had to see a different face of Islam than the one that was with which we were being battered by the media.

And Jamal and I started working together.

And what was the goal at the time?

At the time, we were working on deepening an interfaith dialogue which clearly had not been as effective as one might have thought.

And from my standpoint, correcting rather incredible ignorance about the nature of Islam.

And the beauty was that in the process, I and Ted became friends and subsequently good friends. And then later on, Pastor Don McKenzie came in.

And as I've said jokingly many times that I found out in the course of time and Ted and Don have heard this countless times that I realized that both Pastor Don and Rabbi Ted were two of the best Muslims I know.

John, we've talked about this earlier in the earlier podcast. But the point here is that this is the key. When we develop a human relationship, a personal relationship, doesn't matter what our ideologies are, what our politics are, what our cultures is, then those differences, they don't loom as large.

And we can collaborate and do wonderful programs together, programs that are dear to all of us. Anyhow, so I and Ted became very good friends and we realized that we are cousins.

As I said previously, we are from the same Abrahamic family, very dysfunctional family. And I, you know, we realized that our Christian cousin was missing. That's when Don McKenzie came in.

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