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Elis James and John Robins

#449 - Rodmas Day, Magnificent Lions and Every. Journey. Counts.

Elis James and John Robins

BBC

Comedy

4.86K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

It’s a strange old time for Elis James. On the one hand he’s being called a thirst trap on the carra (the Instagram carousel, for those not in the know); people can’t seem to get enough of his floppy hair, his jawline, and his interesting t-shirts. On the other hand, he’s getting hammered for slagging off Belgium, and having some harsh words directed at him by one of TV’s greatest quiz hosts. What the sigma can he do!?

But no worries, it’s Rodmas Day! He’s off to see Olivia Rodrigo, one of the most famous singers on the planet, whom John’s never heard of - he's more of an Avril Lavigne guy.

John’s been busy chalking up his wins and losses, and working out whether the massive box of carb chews he bought was a good or bad purchase.

There’s a lovely chat with biker Adrian Chiles, more taxi-related stag antics, and John finds common ground with an emailer’s assertion that every journey counts.

If you want to praise or berate Elis, or share your words of wisdom with John, it’s [email protected], or 07974 293 022 on the WhatsApp.

And make sure you catch the finale of DI Robbyns in tomorrow’s Bureau de Change of the Mind, only on BBC Sounds of course.

Transcript

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0:00.0

There are a few sibling rivalries quite like that of Liam and Noel Gallagher.

0:05.6

He had a row with me.

0:06.8

Should be able to fight and that was it.

0:08.3

Oasis, a band committed to the rock and roll dream.

0:12.1

There are only so many, like, olive branches you can give someone, you know what I mean?

0:15.2

Join me, Steve Lemack.

0:16.9

And me, Joe Wiley, as we not only celebrate the music that Oasis made,

0:21.3

but also delve into the complex and unruly rivalry.

0:24.5

A band with your brother, that would become the Achilles heel in the end.

0:29.0

The rise and fall of Oasis.

0:30.9

Listen on BBC Sounds.

0:34.2

BBC Sounds, music, radio podcasts.

1:02.1

Music. BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts. Hello, thank you very much for downloading this Friday edition of Ellis and John.

1:04.7

Good vibes in the studio because Izzy's back.

1:08.7

And we're already feeling considerably younger.

1:13.6

I understood about 30% of the words she used, but yeah, it's nice,

1:20.5

isn't it? As Dave put it when she was away, because she's been away for a month, she's good val. Good val. No, no, no, no, no. You said she was great val. I said she was good val. John said she was,

1:26.6

I said she was great val. John said she was good val. John said she was, I said she was great val. John said

1:27.9

she was good val. So she's good point five val. But it's all, it's all a plus, isn't it?

1:33.4

Oh yeah. It's all good stuff. I think I remember saying her job was on the line for taking

1:36.9

holiday without buying permission. Yes, you did, but you know, that's...

1:40.3

And for missing out on crucial crock content.

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