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Recorded in Chicago, Illinois, with your host's Ken, Matt, Neil, and Jeff.

This is Triviality.

Hello, and welcome to Triviality, the game where a lack of seriousness meets... What is it, man? A little bit of knowledge. I think that you keep saying game right in front of Matt because he always says show. Well, that's why I'm not allowed to... I'm trying to lock it in. Because it's a show, awesome. Yeah, right, he's trying to get into his head. It is both. It is a game, but we're on a show.

Yeah.

It's very confusing.

You just had a hot beef combo. Hot beef combo. What does that mean? It's the opposite of a cold cut combo. Now, that was it, was it dipped? It was dipped? It was baptized? Tell people at home who aren't from Chicago what a dipped hot beef combo is.

A wet hot beef combo.

Big foot long sausage just dipped in Tell people at home who aren't from Chicago What a dipped hot beef combo is A wet hot beef combo

Big foot long sausage

Just dipped in beef

On a roll

A Kaiser roll

And then it's a foot long sausage

Just warmly embraced by wet beef

And a jardinera for those

That's a Chicago staple

A spicy pickled vegetable Medley I guess So what you're saying is you'll be taking a bathroom break halfway through. And a siesta. And a siesta after the recording. Very sleepy. But we don't have time to sleep today. I have time to sleep. Because we have some great guests here. Well, Matt maybe has some time to sleep. We have some great guests here today to join us for today's episode. Returning guests, I guess that we're happy to see. So I guess we'll start. Well, we made a little, a little fun aside here that both guests have four syllables in the last name. So we're going to celebrate four today. My favorite number. It's a lucky number. It's not really my lucky number. I consider it my lucky number, but it's never brought me anything, but I like it. Unlucky number in much of Asia.

Is it four?

Okay, well, maybe that's why.

In China, it sounds like the word for death, if I remember right.

Oh, maybe.

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