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My grandma would go in, she was in her 70s, she could never go in the street and demonstrate

because you know, police hits in, she will break an ankle.

She was on her window, she was hitting her pot, that she was cooking a soup for me a

day before, so everybody was involved.

So you will look at the tactics, which are low risk, dispersive, everybody can participate

and very, very important, everybody can get away with it.

Because if people get away with it and feel fun and feel good about doing something for

their purpose, they're very likely to participate in our movement in the future.

Welcome to the show, I'm Jordan Harbinger.

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Today we're talking with my friend, Surgea Popovic, author of Blueprint for Revolution.

This is one from the vault, but it's especially pertinent right now.

Surgea was actually one of the organizers of the resistance to slow-but-on Molosevic and

Serbia in the 90s.

So this is an interesting conversation, maybe seems a little off topic, but I think psychology,

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