What if I told you that the thing you fear most, uncertainty isn't a weakness to get rid of,

but the very skill that could change your life. Today, we are going to learn how to master it from

someone who is faced uncertainty in the highest stakes imaginable former US Navy SEAL and author Rich DeVinney.

Rich has completed more than 13 overseas deployments where every second was unknown, every

outcome unpredictable, and yet he and his team thrived. He spearheaded the creation of the mind gym that Seals used to train

their brains to perform faster, longer and more effectively in the face of some of the highest

stress environment. I can barely contain my enthusiasm for this conversation because if he can

teach elite warriors to operate with clarity

in chaos, imagine what his tools could do for us and our anxiety. Let's consider this a master

class on how to become a master of uncertainty. Welcome, Rich. Well, thank you, Kimberly. Thanks for

having me. It's a pleasure to be here. So I have your book here.

You can see I've like tagged a bunch of things. It was such a wonderful read. You're an amazing

author and so inspirational. The reason I loved the idea of getting you on is you bring, interestingly,

a different approach to managing uncertainty, but still very in

line with the tools and concepts that we're talking about here on the podcast all the time.

So can you share, it's a broad question, but how can somebody, let's talk about you first, you're out in very, very stressful

in situations. I have been on a binge of learning all about Navy SEALs lately. I don't

know why. I'm on like my third book. And so I find it so fascinating how mindset is such a huge piece of survival and

getting through really hard things, even like your buds training. Tell us how you as a Navy SEAL

manage those highly stressful or highly difficult moments.

Yeah, yeah. Well, it is a very broad question, so I'll just take it piece by piece.

And I think the first thing we want to think about is this idea of uncertainty and kind of how it manifests in our lives and our systems in our environment and what our reaction is to it.

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