#448:Dismantling the Productivity Lie with Kate Northrup
The Mark Groves Podcast
Mark Groves
4.9 • 5K Ratings
🗓️ 21 April 2025
⏱️ 76 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Mark Groves sits down with the always-wise Kate Northrup for a heart-expanding, truth-bomb-filled convo that flips the script on how we think about money, success, and self-worth. Kate unpacks the surprisingly deep connection between your nervous system and your relationship with money—how the way you spend, save, or stress is often tied to how safe you feel in your body. They dive into the power of doing less, the myths of hustle culture, and how rest and regulation are the real keys to abundance. From motherhood and identity to healing old patterns and choosing aliveness over burnout, this one’s all about coming home to yourself—and rewriting the rules of what it means to live a rich life.
As an entrepreneur, bestselling author, and mother, Kate Northrup supports ambitious people to light up the world without burning themselves out. Kate teaches how to heal your relationship with money, time, and work. She’s the author of the bestsellers Money: A Love Story and Do Less, the creator of the Do Less Planner, and the host of the top ranking podcast, Plenty. Her work has been featured by The NY Times, Oprah Daily, The Today Show, Glamour, Harvard Business Review, and more.
Links:
- Website: katenorthrup.com/breakthroughs
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- Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/GlimpseTV
- Kate’s latest book, Do Less: https://katenorthrup.com/book/
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, hey, Los Angeles. I am coming to do a live event in Santa Monica on April 24th in the evening. |
| 0:08.5 | I'm so excited to get to hang out with you again. |
| 0:11.5 | If you want to get your tickets, they are priced to sell out. |
| 0:14.0 | You can go to markgroves.com slash Los Angeles and go get them now. |
| 0:19.0 | And I can't wait to see you there. |
| 0:20.4 | We're going to hang out for an |
| 0:21.9 | evening of intimate conversation, live coaching, all that jazz. Looking forward to it. |
| 0:27.6 | Hello and welcome to another episode of the Mark Groves podcast. I think we all understand |
| 0:33.7 | that money has an emotion to it, right? Like it triggers us emotionally, but it also triggers us on a nervous system level. |
| 0:41.1 | And I obviously, like you, have been really curious about our capacity to hold more, our capacity |
| 0:48.4 | to hold abundance, our capacity to hold more love, more joy, more possibility. |
| 0:53.4 | And we often limit what our capacity is |
| 0:56.6 | based on the capacity of our nervous system. So we know that there's the saying that money is the |
| 1:02.6 | number one cause of divorce. And it's not money that is. It's that there's different stories about |
| 1:07.0 | money. And we need to be able to translate these things to someone saving you know they might |
| 1:11.7 | never want to do because they weren't allowed to have anything and maybe their parents were |
| 1:15.9 | really strict with money and to someone else overspending causes a lot of fear because that's what |
| 1:21.4 | a parent did when they were younger and they were always stressed about money right and these two |
| 1:24.9 | people could end up in relationship and then really stressed about each person's way that they orient to money. But on a deeper level, I'm really |
| 1:34.7 | curious about our personal relationship to money ourselves. Because ultimately, even the triggers |
| 1:41.8 | that come from money in a romantic relationship will end up |
| 1:46.3 | just revealing our own challenges with money. So I wanted to have on someone who's an expert at |
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