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444. How Do You Cure a Compassion Crisis?

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🗓️ 17 December 2020

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Patients in the U.S. healthcare system often feel they’re treated with a lack of empathy. Doctors and nurses have tragically high levels of burnout. Could fixing the first problem solve the second? And does the rest of society need more compassion too?

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0:00.0

Today's episode is really interesting. There are two ways we could start it, but I can't

0:10.4

decide which is better. One way is nasty and vulgar like this?

0:16.7

Well, why are you looking then retarded?

0:19.9

Or we could start with the uplifting story like this.

0:23.6

A scientific compassion as an emotional response to another's pain or suffering, involving

0:30.7

an authentic desire to help.

0:33.1

I don't know. I can't make up my mind. What do you think?

0:37.2

Alright, let's just flip a coin.

0:39.8

Head's for nasty, tails for uplifting. And it's tails. Okay.

0:45.5

We'll get to the nasty stuff later. So let's start here.

0:48.9

My name is Anthony Maserelli. I'm the co-president and CEO of Cooper Diversity Healthcare.

0:54.6

The Cooper Health System takes in about $1.4 billion in annual revenues.

0:59.7

We're a level one trauma center located at our core hospital in Camden, New Jersey, but

1:04.8

we have over 100 sites.

1:06.9

Maserelli doesn't just run the hospital.

1:09.4

I'm also a practicing emergency medicine physician.

1:12.9

People who know Maserelli call them Mazz, and Mazz is sort of an overachiever during his

1:18.3

medical training, for instance, at the University of Pennsylvania.

1:21.8

I ended up graduating with a medical degree, a law degree in a Masters in Biomethics, and

1:26.4

then did my residency training in emergency medicine here at Cooper and have not left Cooper

1:31.8

since.

1:32.8

In 2014, Maserelli was promoted to Chief Medical Officer.

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