443: How Emotional Health Fuels Spiritual Maturity. Zach Meerkreebs Explores Stewarding Crisis, Breaking the Scorecard of Comfort, and Honest Faith that Transforms Your Life
Win Today: Your Roadmap to Wholeness
Christopher Cook
4.9 • 528 Ratings
🗓️ 2 June 2025
⏱️ 77 minutes
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Summary
You've been taught that spiritual maturity looks like control. Stoicism. Discipline. Measured responses. But what if that's not maturity at all—just emotional suppression dressed in a Bible verse? This week on Win Today, Zach Meerkreebs, known for his role in the Asbury Outpouring, joins me to dismantle the cultural scorecard we've built around spiritual growth. We're talking about the false belief that spiritual people don't struggle. That leaders don't wrestle with anxiety. That if you're in pain, you're just not "surrendered" enough.
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| 0:00.0 | The Art of Leadership Network. |
| 0:03.0 | All the lack of agency and all my brokenness was just given spiritual names like sacrifice. |
| 0:09.0 | I didn't have any agency brought, but someone said, oh, you're so sacrificial, you're such a servant. |
| 0:15.0 | When really I needed someone to teach me that I could have boundaries and say that. |
| 0:20.0 | Helping you design your roadmap. to teach me that I could have boundaries and say that. |
| 0:27.0 | Helping you design your roadmap to wholeness from the inside out. |
| 0:29.4 | This is Win Today. |
| 0:33.7 | And now, here's your host, Christopher Cook. |
| 0:36.8 | Hey, friends, welcome to the podcast. |
| 0:38.5 | Welcome to the month of June. |
| 0:43.4 | And this week, you're getting two episodes starting today with my new friend, Zach Mir Krebs. |
| 0:44.6 | So let's dive in. |
| 0:45.4 | Here's what's going on. |
| 0:47.0 | You've been told that being spiritually mature means being emotionally unbothered, right? |
| 0:53.2 | That feelings are dangerous, that tears are weakness, and that |
| 0:56.9 | brokenness is rebellion. So you pushed it down. You smiled at church, you performed your faith, |
| 1:03.4 | and you probably called a surrender, but inside you've been unraveling. And nobody knows. |
| 1:15.0 | Well, the Lord knows, and he wants honesty. So, as I said, this week, my new friend, Zach Meerkrebes joins me. Oh, you guys, this is a power pack |
| 1:19.3 | conversation. It actually kind of caught me off guard because I wasn't expecting it to materialize |
| 1:24.7 | as it did. And it's really special. Together, Zach and I are going to confront that lie head on. |
| 1:31.1 | Now, if his name sounds familiar, |
| 1:33.0 | it's because he was part of what happened during the Asbury outpouring in February of |
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