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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

442. BILL C-63 - Everything You Need to Know | Bruce Pardy & Konstantin Kisin

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2024

⏱️ 106 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in-person with Canadian lawyer Bruce Pardy and podcaster Konstantin Kisin. They discuss Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s Bill C-63 (aka The Online Harms Act), what powers it gives to the government, what rights it strips from citizens, and why even Americans should be concerned. Bruce Pardy is executive director of Rights Probe, a law and liberty thinktank, and professor of law at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, Canada. He is a lawyer, academic, columnist, and outspoken critic of the illiberal managerial state, fighting at the front lines of the culture war inside the law. Bruce writes for the National Post, Epoch Times, and the Brownstone Institute, among others, and serves as senior fellow at the Fraser Institute, the Macdonald-Laurier Institute, and the Frontier Centre for Public Policy. He has taught at law schools in Canada, the United States and New Zealand, practiced civil litigation in Toronto, and served as adjudicator and mediator on the Ontario Environmental Tribunal. The legal ground, Bruce has written, is shifting beneath our feet. The individual is losing to the collective. An ever-expanding bureaucracy regulates life from cradle to grave, including private behavior and speech, in the name of common good. The law has become discretionary, arbitrary, and unequal. The end of Western liberal civilization, as we have known it, is conceivable. Konstantin Kisin is a Russian-British satirist, social commentator, and co-host of the TRIGGERnometry Youtube show. He is also the author of “An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West,” a Sunday Times bestseller. He has written for several publications, including Quillette, The Spectator, The Daily Telegraph, and Standpoint, on issues relating to tech censorship, woke culture, comedy, and other topics, but he currently publishes articles on his popular Substack. Kisin made headlines in 2018 when he refused to sign a "safe space contract" to perform comedy at a British college and again in 2023 when he participated in an Oxford Union debate on the motion of "This House Believes Woke Culture Has Gone Too Far." His speech at the debate received viral attention and has been seen by over 100 million people around the world. - Links - 2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/ For Bruce Pardy: On X https://twitter.com/pardybruce?lang=en For Konstantin Kisin: TRIGGERnometry Podcast / @triggerpod Substack https://konstantinkisin.substack.com/ Twitter https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin?r...

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0:00.0

The Hello everybody. I have the opportunity today to speak with two guests

0:20.8

Constantine Kisson who is co-host of the podcast Trigonometry in the UK, popular

0:27.9

podcast.

0:28.9

He is a speaker and a thinker who deals with cultural war issues, mostly political,

0:38.0

insofar as the cultural war issues are political.

0:42.0

My other guest is Bruce Party. Bruce is a

0:47.0

professor at Queens University, professor of law at Queens University in Canada.

0:52.0

Recently the Trudeau woke mob has managed to extend themselves

0:59.6

even further into the legal Netherlands with a new bill called C63, which isn't law in Canada

1:07.9

yet but is soon likely to be.

1:10.5

And it is the most totalitarian Western bail I've ever seen by quite a large

1:18.0

margin and in multiple dimensions. And that was my conclusion upon reading it and then my conclusion upon rereading it and

1:28.0

rereading it again because I like to make sure I have these things right and I thought

1:32.3

I'd talk to Bruce about it today along with

1:34.0

Constantine to see if my understanding of the bill is actually correct with regard

1:40.6

to Constantine how he sees what's happening in Canada reflected in, say,

1:45.6

Scotland and in Ireland in particular in the UK, but also in England.

1:51.3

And well, that's the terrain that we're exploring. So join us. It'll be quite a ride.

2:01.6

So Dr. Party, I think we got in touch with each other again most recently because I was obsessing

2:10.6

neurotically about a new Canadian bill C63,

2:15.2

which seemed to me to be a real masterpiece

2:18.3

of right thinking utopian resentful foolishness and I thought it would be real

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