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Win Today: Your Roadmap to Wholeness

441: The Idol of Influence Is Killing You. Tauren Wells on Burnout, Performative Christianity, and Why Influence Without Intimacy Always Implodes

Win Today: Your Roadmap to Wholeness

Christopher Cook

Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.9528 Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

We've mistaken platforms for purpose. We've idolized influence and sacrificed intimacy. And we've called it success when in reality, it's just burnout in disguise. This week, Grammy-nominated singer/songwriter Tauren Wells joins Win Today for a brutally honest conversation about the danger of exposure growing faster than character. Together, we explore how influence without intimacy leads to insecurity, how image management becomes spiritual performance, and why pathologizing our struggles has kept us from doing the real work of healing.

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0:00.0

The Art of Leadership Network.

0:03.2

And then if you even use religion as a narcotic, that'll just be another thing that numbs you to your actual feelings by all of these things that were preached that are preached into us.

0:13.5

Faith it till you make it. Faith over feelings. All I think with good intentions, but keep us from really true healing.

0:22.7

Helping you design your roadmap to wholeness from the inside out.

0:27.6

This is Win Today.

0:30.8

And now, here's your host, Christopher Cook.

0:35.0

Hey, you guys, welcome to the podcast.

0:36.8

Thank you so much for joining me this week. You know,

0:39.9

in the last week I've heard from a lot of you. And interestingly, the theme is this. Chris,

0:44.4

I'm burned out and I'm exhausted by the striving. You, like many people, have read the books.

0:50.9

You've been to therapy. You've learned how to manage your image just enough

0:55.3

to keep moving. But if you're being honest with me right now in this moment, I bet you still feel

1:00.4

empty. You still feel unknown and maybe even the intimacy you long for with the Lord and with

1:07.5

the people in your life feels completely out of reach. Why? Well, I think because you've

1:14.6

made peace with performing. You've built your life around what looks strong instead of what's actually

1:20.8

whole. I want to say that again. Too many of us build our lives around what looks strong and capable instead of what's actually

1:31.9

whole and every time your image then starts to crack guess what we do we all do it we reach for

1:39.3

control instead of surrender if you've read my book healing what You Can't Erase, you know that my take on

1:46.6

the first step into transformation and wholeness begins with surrender, not giving up, it's giving

1:52.9

in to a process of confrontation that will lead to transformation from the inside out. But we've got to

1:58.3

say, hey, I'm done living according to my own strength

2:01.5

and by my own insight and understanding. I'm done propping up in image. I'm done trying to survive

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