Hello, hello there, good listener. I am your host, Nick Stumbo, and you are listening to The Pure Desire podcast, your biblically based and clinically informed approach to healing from betrayal and breaking free from compulsive sexual behavior.

Today is episode 441 and joining me throughout this

gift of recovery series is the John Beggeman. John, good to see you again. How are you?

Thanks. Doing this series. It's been so much fun to have so many couples share powerful stories

of healing going like, wait, how did your story start there and end

there and getting to track with it has just been really sweet. Yeah, you know, throughout the course

of the podcast, we've probably done now 25 to 30, you know, basically testimony podcasts. And I think

every time I'm just always blown away that there's something unique and

special, even though there's a lot of commonality in people's stories, there's just something

about the way a couple talks about their healing, their marriage. Yeah, and I was really encouraged

by Adam and Becky today who've been walking this road now for 15 years. And are really at that

place that they're getting to see the fruit of paying their recovery forward and helping others. But it didn't come without a whole lot of hard work and pain early on in their story that people get to hear about today. Yeah, something I was so impressed by. There was a phrase that they mentioned just offhandedly. I just like, as you get into this episode, they mentioned getting into the well with people and I'm like man what a powerful phrase that idea of empathy of going I'm going to go there with you not just sympathy from a distance but going you know what like I'm going to get in the well with you I'm going to sit with you in your pain I'm willing to walk this out with you and another thought of just, they had been in groups and they took a

break and it seems like they jump back into leading groups and just so encouraged of like wherever

you might be. Like maybe groups were forever ago for you or maybe they're super recent, but just

there's the need is there. And it's just going, how do we want to participate? Or how do we want

to give the gift of recovery, whether that's leading or

generosity or to having a conversation with your pastor? There's so many ways, but just, yeah, really

encouraged by them today. Yeah, and looking at group not to say what's in it for me or do I need group

anymore, but them feeling like Adam uses this story at the end, so I'm kind of stealing his thunder,

but the idea of the man who

returned to Jesus to say thank you, and Adam's saying, that's what us leading group is.

It's just us saying, thank you, Lord, for the freedom you brought into our lives.

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