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The Guilty Feminist

441. Gender Nonconformity with Kate O’Donnell and Grace Petrie

The Guilty Feminist

The Spontaneity Shop

Comedy

4.912.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 June 2025

⏱️ 89 minutes

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The Guilty Feminist 441. Gender Nonconformity Deborah Frances-White in conversation with Kate O’Donnell with music from Grace Petrie Recorded 8 April 2025 at Stoller Hall, Manchester. Released 23 June. The Guilty Feminist theme composed by Mark Hodge. Get Deborah’s new book with 30% off using the code SIXCONVERSATIONSPOD https://store.virago.co.uk/products/six-conversations-were-scared-to-have More about Deborah Frances-White https://deborahfrances-white.com https://www.instagram.com/dfdubz https://www.virago.co.uk/titles/deborah-frances-white/six-conversations-were-scared-to-have/9780349015811 https://www.virago.co.uk/titles/deborah-frances-white/the-guilty-feminist/9780349010120 More about Kate O’Donnell https://www.instagram.com/kateodonnellpresents https://www.instagram.com/transcreativeuk More about Grace Petrie https://www.instagram.com/gracepetriemusic https://www.gracepetrie.com For more information about this and other episodes… visit https://www.guiltyfeminist.com tweet us https://www.twitter.com/guiltfempod like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/guiltyfeminist check out our Instagram https://www.instagram.com/theguiltyfeminist or join our mailing list http://www.eepurl.com/bRfSPT Our new podcasts are out now Media Storm https://podfollow.com/media-storm Absolute Power https://podfollow.com/john-bercows-absolute-power Come to a live show 16 Postcodes with Jessica Regan https://museumofcomedy.ticketsolve.com/ticketbooth/shows/873655309 Never Have I Ever in Perth https://blackswantheatre.com.au/season-2025/never-have-i-ever Edinburgh book festival https://www.edbookfest.co.uk/the-festival/whats-on/deborah-frances-white-a-little-more-conversation Voices in Your Head at the Edinburgh Fringe https://bookings.shedinburgh.com/event/9854:24/9854:20/Thank you to our amazing Patreon supporters. To support the podcast yourself, go to https://www.patreon.com/guiltyfeminist Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I thought we'd start with something controversial.

0:25.3

Trans women in sports.

0:28.5

Thank you very much.

0:31.1

Welcome, everybody.

0:32.2

How are you doing?

0:34.5

It's nice to be here, isn't it?

0:36.8

Anybody been here before? Not many, because it's nice to be here isn't it anybody been here before not many because it's quite fancy that's probably

0:43.4

why so in a moment i'm going to be welcoming on the wonderful deborah francis white talking about her

0:49.3

loo books because conversations we're scared to have i don't know if anybody knows deb Deborah, but I'm really surprised she's scared to have any conversations.

0:57.7

At least of all with me and you.

0:59.7

It's going to be fine.

1:01.5

So normally, when I kind of come to an event like this,

1:05.1

you're going to get to know us,

1:06.3

but I thought before then, maybe I can get to know all of you.

1:09.9

I like to know who's in the room. I like to

1:12.4

gauge the temperature, mainly around queer issues because of now trans woman. So let's start

1:21.5

with the lesbians. Do you really have any lesbians in this evening. There they are.

1:28.0

I love that they put their hands up.

1:31.9

Do we have any gays?

1:35.9

Surprisingly quiet for the gays.

1:39.3

They're any bisexuals.

1:42.4

They're quite loud this evening. They're the ones that we need to be watching out

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