441. Gender Nonconformity with Kate O’Donnell and Grace Petrie

The Guilty Feminist

The Spontaneity Shop

Comedy, Feminism

4.8 • 12.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 June 2025

⏱️ 89 minutes

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The Guilty Feminist 441. Gender Nonconformity

Deborah Frances-White in conversation with Kate O’Donnell with music from Grace Petrie

Recorded 8 April 2025 at Stoller Hall, Manchester. Released 23 June.

The Guilty Feminist theme composed by Mark Hodge.

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0:00.0	I thought we'd start with something controversial.
0:25.3	Trans women in sports.
0:28.5	Thank you very much.
0:31.1	Welcome, everybody.
0:32.2	How are you doing?
0:34.5	It's nice to be here, isn't it?
0:36.8	Anybody been here before? Not many, because it's nice to be here isn't it anybody been here before not many because it's quite fancy that's probably
0:43.4	why so in a moment i'm going to be welcoming on the wonderful deborah francis white talking about her
0:49.3	loo books because conversations we're scared to have i don't know if anybody knows deb Deborah, but I'm really surprised she's scared to have any conversations.
0:57.7	At least of all with me and you.
0:59.7	It's going to be fine.
1:01.5	So normally, when I kind of come to an event like this,
1:05.1	you're going to get to know us,
1:06.3	but I thought before then, maybe I can get to know all of you.
1:09.9	I like to know who's in the room. I like to
1:12.4	gauge the temperature, mainly around queer issues because of now trans woman. So let's start
1:21.5	with the lesbians. Do you really have any lesbians in this evening. There they are.
1:28.0	I love that they put their hands up.
1:31.9	Do we have any gays?
1:35.9	Surprisingly quiet for the gays.
1:39.3	They're any bisexuals.
1:42.4	They're quite loud this evening. They're the ones that we need to be watching out
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