Celebrity actors in particular. The problem is that they spend their entire lives reading other people scripts.

That's why they suddenly come up with you know some cause whether it's the environment or gay rights. It's a, look at us, we're better than

you. Most of them are as dumb as can be. It really is quite a low percentage of people who

are trans. I mean,'s really small but in the

celebrity world it's extraordinary Charlie's therons kids shares kids Cynthia

Nixon sting there was a huge Jamie Lee Curtis Jamie Lee Curtis is Curtis. She's one of these celebrities who stands up and says,

my children are at risk.

They're going to be killed.

That's why I feel I now have to showcase myself. I mean, I've never been a social justice movement in history that said if you don't

give our rights we're going to jump into the river and kill ourselves hey that's

a really pathetic argument, amputated breasts in a plastic bag with fake blood.

To have a really popular multi award-winning show at Drag Race race who should that on mainstream TV is just

pulling it's almost tailor-made to be making the argument that homophobes used to make which is that there's an agenda here.

Today's guest on heretics is Malcolm Clark, an Emmy-nominated producer a science journalist.

He does all the science stuff, he knows his stuff, he really does, who has taken a stand against

trans ideology.

And we're going to be talking about the celebrities such as David Tenant,

who is a Scottish actor for those outside the UK, who recently,

well, he was really, he took a very strong stance, I believe he has a family member who is

trans and that's obviously going to make a big difference and makes people emotional and makes people

see anyone who goes against their ideology

is evil, which is something that we've obviously learned from the many episodes I used to do on

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