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The Tim Ferriss Show

#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others

The Tim Ferriss Show

Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig

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4.617.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2020

⏱️ 105 minutes

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Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others | Brought to you by Helix Sleep and LinkedIn Jobs

Rick Doblin, PhD, (@rickdoblin) is the founder and executive director of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS). He received his doctorate in public policy from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, where he wrote his dissertation on the regulation of the medical uses of psychedelics and marijuana and his master’s thesis on a survey of oncologists about smoked marijuana vs. the oral THC pill in nausea control for cancer patients. Rick was also one of the early students under the legendary Dr. Stanislav Grof.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Please note that this episode was recorded in the week prior to George Floyd's death.

0:04.3

It therefore doesn't cover recent events directly, but our discussion of trauma, PTSD,

0:09.0

that's post-traumatic stress disorder, and promising treatments, has never been more relevant.

0:13.5

Thank you for listening.

0:30.0

This podcast episode is brought to you by Helix Sleep.

0:43.3

Sleep is super important to me in the last few years.

0:45.8

I've come to conclude it is the end-all be all that all good things, good mood, good

0:50.9

performance, good everything seem to stem from good sleep.

0:54.0

So I've tried a lot to optimize it.

0:56.9

I've tried pills and potions, all sorts of different mattresses.

1:00.8

You name it.

1:02.0

And for the last few years, I've been sleeping on a Helix Midnight Lux mattress.

1:06.5

I also have one in the guest bedroom and feedback from friends has always been fantastic.

1:11.8

It's something that they comment on.

1:13.5

Helix Sleep has a quiz.

1:15.3

It takes about two minutes to complete that matches your body type and sleep preferences

1:19.0

to the perfect mattress for you.

1:21.2

With Helix, there's a specific mattress for each and every body.

1:25.3

That is your body, also your taste.

1:27.5

So let's say you sleep on your side and like a super soft bed.

1:31.1

No problem.

1:32.1

Or if you're a back sleeper who likes a mattress that's as firm as a rock, they've got a

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