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The Talk Show With John Gruber

440: ‘Flush a Radar’, With Brent Simmons

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2026

⏱️ 126 minutes

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Summary

Brent Simmons returns to the show. Topics include NetNewsWire 7, MacOS 26 Tahoe, and I guess, some other stuff.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Brent, I'm so glad to have you back on the show, except you started sending me ideas for things to talk about.

0:09.0

And if I covered them all, I'm worried that we would be here for four hours.

0:12.9

Yeah, let's not do that.

0:14.1

Oh, my God, no.

0:15.4

And I think the lesson is that I should have you on more often than I have.

0:21.7

And I'm trying to remember.

0:23.2

Do you remember the last time you were here?

0:25.1

I don't.

0:26.3

It's been so long.

0:27.1

I haven't done a podcast since six years at all.

0:29.4

Michael Simmons.

0:30.4

Michael Simmons.

0:31.2

Last few Simmons have all been Michael Simmons, your brother.

0:35.2

Cousin Michael.

0:36.2

Yeah.

0:36.7

Yeah.

0:36.7

Episode 262 from August 31st, 2019.

0:43.3

This is, I should, I mean, honestly, the podcast police should come and arrest me.

0:48.3

So what have you been up to?

0:51.6

Since we last talked.

0:53.6

Yes. Jeez. Oh, yes.

0:54.5

Oh, geez.

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