Well, they say you should never meet your heroes. But they're wrong. Totally. Are you kidding me?

This is great. Absolutely. Terrific. I haven't been nervous, really, on this podcast. I've been

apprehensive because I don't often understand, you know, like early on the tech and like really what we were doing.

But I haven't been nervous interviewing anybody.

And I wasn't really nervous interviewing David Mamet.

But I was in my head a little bit.

Just a little bit.

Yeah.

I mean, I was right there with you, man.

And I was just watching.

And I was like, hmm.

Okay.

This episode is called Hoar That I Am.

And why is it called that, Mike?

Because David Mamet, among many other excellent decisions, had the good taste to marry Rebecca Pigeon, an amazing actress.

And she suggested to him, apparently, that he should proceed all of his interviews by introducing himself or that I am and then make his point, right?

Yeah.

Boy, that made me laugh.

A lot of things made me laugh in this conversation.

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