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We have a heritage to protect and to wipe that heritage out and even worse than that to make that

heritage something to be ashamed of. I mean like the United States has done some horrible

things you know with African-Americans with Native Americans over time but we have much to be proud of.

As does the UK and to flush that down the toilet it diminishes particularly that working

middle-class person whose life isn't glamorous and that identity with the country is so important.

Hello and welcome to the Brendan O'Neill show with me Brendan O'Neill. This is a podcast in which an

esteemed guest joins me to talk about the big ideas, the bad ideas, the problems and the controversies

of life in the early 21st century. In this episode I am delighted to be joined by Joel Cockin.

Joel is a writer and thinker based in California. He is presidential fellow in urban futures at

Chapman University in Orange California and he's been described by the New York Times as America's

Uber Geographer. He has an international reputation as an authority on social, political and class

trends. He has written for numerous publications and he's the author of eight books including

the next hundred million America in 2050, the hugely influential the new class conflict

and his latest book The Coming of Neo-Fudelism. A warning to the global middle class.

So Joel I want to focus on your new book and we might as well start at the beginning. So you talk

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