I dreamt that you were twisting through seven sons of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

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I'm Veronica Valley.

And I'm Chip Summers.

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So it's been a couple of weeks since we recorded because I've just got back from England and I'm a bit jet lagged still. I noticed you came to England and didn't come to see me, but we'll let that one pass, yeah. It was a really flying visit. How long? Six nights. Okay, flying, yeah, yeah, yeah. No time to come to see me, yeah. No, without my children. Well, the reason I came was it was my mum's 80th birthday.

Okay. Which makes me feel really old. Like my mum's 80. Easy, easy, easy. Go easy. Hear what you're saying about age. Just easy up there because I'm not far behind your mum. You may not be far behind, but my God, your world's apart.

We might be at that. I'm pretty sure we probably are, yeah.

And you know what was really amazing?

We had a really nice time.

And I really want to take my boys out because she loves being a grandmother. But taking my children to England is like a military exercise in

logistics. It's just really hard. There should be an airline that specifically travels with children,

and they have sort of babysitters that take children on an airline. They make a fortune.

I think they would. I think that would be brilliant. Yeah. But it's so easy for me to just jump on a plane in New York. I'm 30 minutes from the airport. I jump on and I've got like six or seven luxury hours to myself. It's like heaven. I worked. I watched a movie. I read my book. So I wanted to take them but I couldn't't. So I did the next book's thing, which is she wanted to spend time with me.

So I took her away to a spa in Newmarket for a couple of nights. Oh, I know it, yeah. Do you know the Bedford Lodge and Spa? Bedford Lodge, yeah. Yeah, it's really nice. Yeah. It's lovely. I've got a really good deal. So we went there and we had a really nice lunch, great food, really, really nice.

Her sisters came, so that was nice. really good deal. So we went there and we had a really nice lunch, great food, really, really

nice. Her sisters came, so that was nice. My mum has never sparred before, so that was all a bit

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