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Intersectionality Matters!

44. Drag At The Intersection

Intersectionality Matters!

Intersectionality Matters with Kimberlé Crenshaw

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4.7814 Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2022

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Kimberlé is joined by Bob the Drag Queen for a conversation full of critique and celebration of all things drag. Having once existed at the margins of legality and social acceptability, drag has now moved into the mainstream with the popular success of shows like RuPaul’s Drag Race, Dragula and We’re Here. Even with this moment in the limelight, drag’s inherent subversiveness, fearlessness and resilience shine through, posing fundamental questions like: What is gender and how it is performed? How does race interact with the performance of gender? What are the transformative possibilities and the limitations of this as an art form? And ultimately, what can drag do to contend with and push back against social injustice? Through laughter and honest reflection, Kimberlé and Bob answer these questions and more as they explore drag's ability to be a tool for intersectional activism, their favorite figures in Black and queer history, what it was like being a child of the South, and the vital need to protect Black stories. With: BOB THE DRAG QUEEN - Winner of Rupaul's Drag Race Season 8; Star of HBO's Were Here; Drag Queen, Actor, and Comedian Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks) Produced and edited by Julia Sharpe-Levine Co-produced by Ashley Julien Supported provided by Destiny Spruill, Rebecca Scheckman, and the African American Policy Forum Music by Blue Dot Sessions Follow us at @intersectionalitymatters, @IMKC_podcast

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0:00.0

The 2024 presidential election was marked by soaring highs and crushing lows. Black women, 91% of whom turned out for VP Harris, once again proved to be the most engaged, progressive, and resilient voting bloc.

0:16.0

In an election campaign where rampant sexism and racism was directed not only at Harris,

0:22.1

but at black women more broadly, the misogy noir we just witnessed is already being written

0:27.0

out of the analysis of what actually happened.

0:30.0

There seems to be a widening gap between what black women experienced and what the

0:34.1

pundit and political classes choose to talk about.

0:37.3

So join host Kimberly Crenshaw for a virtual under the blacklight conversation on December 3rd at 7 p.m. Eastern.

0:45.7

Black women advocates, activists, and analysts will offer their side of the story about the election

0:50.9

and highlight the risks to our democracy if we continue to erase black women

0:56.2

and their experiences. Register for free at Bitley slash Election 24 Road Ahead. That's Bitley

1:04.5

slash Election 24 Road Ahead. I'm Kimberly Crenshaw, and this is Intersectionality Matters. The podcast that brings

1:16.6

intersectionality to life by exploring the hidden dimensions of today's most pressing issues,

1:22.6

from say her name in COVID, to the war on CRT and the global rise of fascism.

1:28.9

This idea travelogue lifts up the work of leading activists, artists, and scholars,

1:33.2

and helps listeners understand politics, the law, social movements, and even their own lives

1:40.3

in deeper, more nuanced ways.

1:57.0

Wow. lives in deeper, more nuanced ways. I became a devoteau of Rupal's Drag Race way back in 2008 when the show first premiered on Logo TV. It was one of my things.

1:59.0

Don't call me when it's on. Don't waste my time talking about anything else if you ain't watching that.

2:04.9

Acquaintances who were also fans became friends, at least for the season, all the way up to the grand finale.

2:11.2

Now, I got to be real here. I wasn't always happy with some of what went down on the show.

2:17.2

Yeah, the space was queer, but that didn't guarantee that it was free of racism, sexism,

2:24.3

and any of its intersections.

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