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That is Georgia Hardstart.

That's Karen Kilgaref.

We can overlap because we're in the same room.

This isn't on video so we can actually hit our microphones together. It's my passion since the first episode hitting my

microphone with my own hand. You've gotten pro, I mean, flawless. Thank you.

It's like they had to take the microphones, lock them down, and be like, you know what?

Don't touch.

We'll hold it for you.

There's never been a person in the history of microphones who's been passed a microphone or sat in front of a microphone and hasn't wanted to adjust it.

It doesn't fucking matter. It's true. You're gonna touch it.

You have to and you think you're touching it to like point it closer to yeah

when you are working with us you know that that's part of the job is that

we're gonna fucking touch everything touch it you're allowed to touch it that's

you're right yeah how's it going pretty good how is your how

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