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Pure Desire Podcast

439 - Impossible Redemption: The Gift of Recovery w/ Josh & Avonlea Roy

Pure Desire Podcast

Pure Desire Ministries

Sexual Addiction Recovery, Religion & Spirituality, Celebrate Recovery, Sexuality, Porn Recovery, Porn Addiction Recovery, Health & Fitness, Aa, Education, Betrayal Trauma, Recovery, Biblical Recovery, Christian Recovery, Healing, Sa, Christianity, Self-improvement

4.6682 Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

In this powerful episode, we sit down with Josh and Avonlea Roy who vulnerably shares their journey of healing after infidelity and betrayal. From the pain of discovery to finding hope through the Pure Desire podcast in 2023, they recount the insights that helped them take their first steps toward restoration. Transitioning into group work with Betrayal & Beyond and Seven Pillars of Freedom, they discuss how these experiences deepened their healing and reshaped their faith. With honesty and encouragement, they reflect on pivotal moments that helped them rebuild trust, reconnect emotionally, and rediscover joy in their marriage. They also share how Pure Desire counseling and the Summit events provided breakthrough guidance along the way. Now hosts of their own show, Love After Lies, they offer wisdom, encouragement, and a message of hope to couples wondering if healing is possible. This episode is a reminder: love after betrayal is not only possible—it’s worth fighting for.

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0:00.0

Hello there, good listener. I am your host, Nick Stumbo, and you are listening to The Pure Desire

0:10.1

podcast, your bivocally based and clinically informed approach to breaking free from compulsive sexual

0:16.3

behaviors and healing from betrayal. Today is episode 439 and here joining me as my co-host for this new

0:24.6

series is Mr. John Beggeman. John, welcome back to the podcast. Thanks so much, Nick. It's an honor to be here.

0:31.2

No singing for us. No holiday jingle. Nope. No singing. I think people heard your name. They're

0:36.8

probably like, oh, we've got a two-minute song coming on here. I know. I'll work on it for the series. I feel like there's something, I want to bring something unique. I'm not for sure what it is. You're going to build up to it. Yeah, we're building up. I think you do hold the record for the longest time sung in an introduction. Oh, no way. We should get someone like one of our listeners to go through

0:56.7

and and you know, longest time sung in an introduction. Oh, no way. We should get someone like one of our listeners

0:55.8

to go through and stop watch all the times I sang. Oh, sure. And then a couple of times you have.

1:03.2

That would be, actually, listener, if that's you, like you are too dedicated, you have too much

1:09.2

time on your hands. Please don't do that.

1:11.7

Spend your time listening to today's episode because we have a good one for you.

1:16.6

This month we are doing a series on stories of healing that we're calling the gift of recovery.

1:22.0

Obviously this podcast is coming out in the season of Christmas and we're thinking about gifts.

1:26.4

And many years,

1:27.6

we have done kind of really practical episodes on surviving the holidays, you know, tips for

1:32.4

being with your family of origin. If it's your first year in recovery, how to navigate that

1:37.0

as a couple. And if that would be helpful to you, we've done that for literally like six years.

1:42.3

So search those podcasts in December. We've got a ton of them.

1:45.3

This year we just wanted to tell stories.

1:47.2

We wanted to tell stories of how God has been at work in lives.

1:50.4

And today we got to hear from a wonderful couple that experienced infidelity and walked through that pain and is really just experiencing the fruitfulness that can come when you take the right steps. And so we

2:02.4

talked with Josh and Avonlea, and I think listeners are really going to get a lot out of their

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