438: Agree to Disagree
GymCastic: The Gymnastics Podcast
GymCastic: The Gymnastics Podcast
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🗓️ 27 August 2020
⏱️ 99 minutes
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HEADLINES
- Alyssa Beckerman penned a Google Doc about the emotional manipulation, ostracism, pettiness, and mishandling of weight and injury that she experienced at UCLA under Miss Val
- What lessons other coaches can learn about the best ways to help athletes who experienced abusive club careers
- Does this change how we look at Miss Val's positive coaching tour?
- Thoughts on Miss Val's response and whether she should have said anything at all
- Discussed:
- International Socio-Cultural research group on Women's Artistic Gymnastics (ISCWAG) research and interview
- Jenny Pinches explanation on August 7, 2020 before Alyssa's letter) of the #AthleteAlliance movement re coaches
- One Face: Project Gravitas
- Related articles on Beckerman :
- More #GymnastAlliance news
- Cassidy Hyman's statement about elite development coordinator Dan Baker
- Athletes speak out about Amanda Reddin, WAG head coach at British Gymnastics
- The NCAA Gym is dying
- Alaska's women's program and Iowa's men's program will be shut down after 2021. We mourn.
MINI COMMISSION
- Erin has commissioned us to bring back fluff pieces and reimagine the non-racist, non-condescending, non-awful versions we'd like to see. Obviously, we go right to Elena Produnova, Catalina Ponor's closet, and lesbians
GYMTERNET NEWS
- Kensley's article on Female judges in MAG, Suni Lee's COVID scare, an exposé of the Brazilian club Pinheiros, and what we think of the survivors' attorneys asking the court to reject Terin Humphrey's claim
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| 0:00.0 | Before we start this week a little background on this episode. So this was a tough one. I know people are going to be angry with |
| 0:16.0 | me no matter what I say on this issue between Alyssa Beckerman and this Val and |
| 0:20.7 | if I recused myself I'll take crap for that too. |
| 0:24.3 | We started recording this episode and we were heatedly going in circles. |
| 0:29.4 | So we stopped hash dot law feelings, and then started again, |
| 0:33.8 | because it's okay to agree to disagree. |
| 0:39.0 | Although Spencer and I both agreed |
| 0:40.5 | that we would have totally been, |
| 0:42.2 | like Alyssa, been thrown off the team |
| 0:43.9 | like so many other UCLA gymnast we for sure would have been kicked off the team |
| 0:48.4 | so fast that is a hundred percent for sure thing that would have happened. |
| 0:53.0 | So what's crazy about this week is we only got one letter about this thing with |
| 0:57.2 | Alyssa and Miss Val and it was about MLT. |
| 1:01.0 | Part of the issue of why this conversation was so difficult is because we're having to try |
| 1:06.6 | a we're trying to have a perfect conversation about a really complicated issue and that's really an impossible task. |
| 1:15.0 | So what I'm asking you guys to do is hear us out. |
| 1:19.0 | Keep listening to the entire conversation until we're done. And if you want to skip it |
| 1:25.2 | altogether, fast forward about 40 minutes. But just listen to the whole thing |
| 1:30.2 | before you send your feedback and after you've listened please do send |
| 1:34.6 | feedback send it to especially the hate mail to flow gymnastics at flow.com so |
| 1:39.8 | all of the letters Lisses details her letter, Miss Val's letter refuting. |
| 1:45.0 | Those are all linked in the show notes along with some other resources like the |
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