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437 - How To Build A Non-Legacy Brand with Johnathan Crocker of Frank August

Bourbon Pursuit

Bourbon Pursuit

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4.9866 Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2023

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Let's say you want to start a new bourbon brand but you don't have generations of family heritage or an existing legacy to promote. So how do you get consumers to try something new instead of reverting to something like putting horses or barns on the labels? Branding today seems to require more storytelling than focusing just on the whiskey. One modern brand trying to break that mold is Frank August. I invited their CEO and Co-Founder, Johnathan Crocker on the show to talk about navigating this challenge and how they are reinventing branding in a crowded bourbon market without relying on a legacy. They're focused on creating an authentic modern brand that resonates with consumers. It's an interesting case study on building a bourbon brand from scratch in today's industry. Show Notes: Above the Char with Fred Minnick (@fredminnick) talks about will the bourbon boom ever end? How did you get tied into whiskey and with Drew at Willett? Why create a new bourbon brand during COVID? How do you see yourself and brand fitting into this industry? What does the name Frank August mean? At what point does it feel like overthinking vs simple strategy? Would a consumer just like to buy a bottle with a horse on it instead of new labels? Does a brand have to speak directly to a specific demographic or can brands adapt? Historical brands like Old Forester and Heaven Hill sourced their whiskey at first so how did they adapt? Can you change the mindset of a whiskey drinker away from the staples like a horse or a barn? Do you have to talk about the story instead of the whiskey? Are any legacy brands that have successfully pivoted to tell a new story? @thefrankaugust Support this podcast on Patreon

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back in time to the 1950s

0:02.7

into a marketing room

0:04.5

and say, hey, I have an idea.

0:06.2

Let's create a brand called Barrel

0:08.0

and just add another L.

0:09.8

They would have been laughed out of the room.

0:11.8

Never would have worked.

0:12.9

You're like, there's no grandpa connected to this story.

0:16.0

We don't have anything about the original yeast.

0:18.6

You know, it would go on and on and on.

0:32.4

Music anything about the original yeast. You know, it would go on and on and on. This is Bourbon Pursuit, the official podcast of Bourbon, bringing to you the best in news, reviews,

0:38.8

and interviews with people making the bourbon whiskey industry happen, and I'm one of your hosts,

0:44.3

Kenny Coleman. All right, let's say you want to start a new bourbon brand, but you don't have

0:49.3

generations of family heritage or an existing legacy to lean on. So how do you get consumers to try something

0:55.5

new? Well, you might just end up reverting back to something that's tried and true, like

0:59.8

putting horses or barns on the label. Branding today seems to require more storytelling than ever

1:04.7

than focusing just on the whiskey. And one modern bourbon brand is trying to break that mold,

1:10.6

and that's Frank August.

1:12.4

I've invited their CEO and co-founder on Jonathan Crocker to talk about navigating this challenge

1:17.8

and how they're reinventing branding in a crowded bourbon market without relying on a legacy.

1:23.1

They're focused on creating an authentic modern bourbon brand that resonates with consumers.

1:28.3

It's an interesting case study on building a bourbon brand from scratch in today's industry.

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