renting to college students. Now, some clients of mine, they run away from that. We're not looking

to be the highest rent or the have the most amenities. It's not an arms race. When clients are in the

high school stage with their kids and they're looking for the next rental property, I'll say,

one of your best renters is yourself. Welcome everybody to another interview here on Main Street America. I'm here with

a mogul in the real estate industry in campus housing. We're here with Dan Bernstein for all of you

budding real estate investors. You're going to love this interview. Dan, thanks for being with us.

Mark, my pleasure. Thank you for having me. Did you get called mogul very often? Is that kind of

No, I was about to say.

I was thinking it makes me feel a little uncomfortable, but I appreciate the context.

And our company is a mogul within the...

There you go.

There you go.

Well, Dan is the president and chief investment officer of campus apartments, a $2 billion business in the space of campus housing.

I know you're leading in in the industry. And it's an honor for us to have you here with us

because all of us little real estate investors want to learn what you learned through your 30 year trek through this

space from the very beginning um so again thank you for sharing your wit and wisdom with us we

really appreciate it and looking forward to it okay now if i'm correct you you started out in

philadelphia with the company when it was just a said, a row house of just some basic apartments and a vision.

Tell me how this whole thing got started and how some people can actually dream and go, maybe I could do that or at least something like it or part of it.

How did it all start?

Well, it's a great side.

I'll back up by saying the way the company was started was, and I'm sure, hopefully

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