435 - The Song of Creation (Charleston talk)
The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau
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🗓️ 12 February 2026
⏱️ 65 minutes
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NEW COURSE: The Art of Imitating Heaven: Structure and Meaning in Ancient Cosmology By Joshua Sturgill
What is heaven? Where is it? For ancient people, the answer was obvious: simply look up at the night sky. For them, to see the stars and planets was to see the face of the divine. Christianity, too, understood the visible sky as the realm of unfallen creation. What does this belief mean, and why was it lost?
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
00:57 - Intro music
01:22 - Introduction
05:18 - Day 1
15:20 - Day 2
21:53 - Day 3
33:34 - Day 4
38:31 - Day 5
45:51 - Day 6
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| 0:00.0 | T.S. Lewis in his Narnia series, he has this image that in fact the great lion Aslan sang |
| 0:07.0 | the world into being. And this is the analogy that I want you to maintain in your mind |
| 0:12.0 | as we go through the days of creation. You will see that all of the discussion about creation |
| 0:18.0 | in Genesis 1 and 2 is really something like variations on a theme. |
| 0:24.8 | God presents a theme at the outset and then plays with that theme all through the description of |
| 0:30.3 | creation and gives us variation on the first pattern that he established at the beginning. |
| 0:36.7 | Now, of of course unlike our |
| 0:38.2 | musical experiences, that theme is not just a theme, it is the theme, it is the |
| 0:43.5 | pattern, right? He's describing the very pattern of the cosmos itself and as |
| 0:50.1 | he goes through the days you will see how that pattern is repeated and is played with. |
| 0:57.0 | This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world. |
| 1:13.6 | What you're about to see is a concert slash speaking event that I did at St. Michael's Anglican Church in Charleston, South Carolina. |
| 1:31.3 | It was an event that was organized by my friend Matthew Wilkinson, |
| 1:35.3 | who runs the Pursuit of Beauty Podcast. |
| 1:37.3 | You might have seen me on that podcast. |
| 1:39.3 | He's been doing a great job, and he's an old friend of mine. |
| 1:42.3 | It was a wonderful event where I would explain the symbolism in Genesis |
| 1:47.0 | and then the choirs would sing different pieces of music. |
| 1:50.0 | It was of course St. Michael's choir itself, |
| 1:53.0 | but also the choir from Holy Ascension in Charleston, |
| 1:57.0 | a parish that I love very much. |
| 1:59.0 | And so it was a wonderful time and a wonderful surprise to be able to do an event like that. |
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