Hey guys, it's me, Mike Rowe. It's the way I heard it. This one's called Shut Up and Make It.

You know why, Chuck? Why? Because I think sometimes what our country needs to do is just shut up and start making things.

Yeah, well, certainly this administration would like us to do that, wouldn't he?

Yeah, you know what? I don't know what this administration would like.

They're certainly not shutting up, I can tell you that.

No, no.

But they're discouraging the importing of goods from elsewhere, and they want us to make stuff

in America, which is something that you've been touting for many, many years now.

I have. I have, indeed. But of course, it's complicated. Everything is complicated. There's super.

No such thing as a playbook or a panacea. You can't pick up the headlines, it seems,

without seeing the word tariff emblazoned upon there. In fact, what did you want to call this episode? I wanted to call this

episode, America is terrific. Right, but that's not going to happen because it's called

Shut Up and Make It's part of my New Year's resolution to a... Not listen to anything I say?

Well, no, that's a, that's an old resolution. I'm just simply trying to avoid more puns.

But it's not bad.

I think that if you were to poll the common man or woman, you would find a level of frustration

around this whole topic that could redound to a simple proclamation along the lines of just shut up and

make it already. Why can't we make it? Whatever it is, why can't we do it? Jeans, bobblehead,

whatever. You know, it's tougher to make it in America than it is to have it made overseas.

Which is precisely why the people who have chosen to try and make stuff here are of unending

interest to me. I've been very lucky to meet a lot of those people and have a couple of them

as sponsors on this podcast. And I just thought, I thought it would be interesting, maybe even useful, dare I say,

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