Well, hello, hello, guys. You're listening to Beauty Bites with Dr. K, Secrets of a Plastic Surgeon.

And today on the podcast,

we are talking to a female entrepreneur, inventor of these amazing shoes. It's Haley Pavone and Haley.

These are shoes that go from heels to flat. A miracle. You can remove the heel itself, and then you

have a fully flexible midsole that lies flat under

your body weight.

So, two shoes and one.

So I found Haley on a TikTok or an Instagram video.

I'm not sure, but I saw these shoes and I was like, I have to have them.

You know how many lectures I go to at convention centers where I have to walk with

blistering, bleeding feet in high heels, like half a football field, a full football field, like at the wind in Vegas.

Yeah, I've been dreaming of you and these shoes that turn from heels to flat so quickly. So tell me your

inspiration and how did you get started?

So my big inspiration really came from to your point, just the love,

hate relationship that I had with high heels and that I think pretty much most women have

with high heels. I've been barefoot more times in my life than I can count. I was barefoot

in Vegas on the strip for one, which was...

I've done that. So gross. But no, really the light bulb moment for me actually came in my

junior year of college. I was 20 years old when I started this business, which is kind of the

fun fact about me. But I'd worn six inch stilettos out to a sorority spring formal,

as you do when you're 20, going to a sorority spring formal.

And as I'm sure you and the listeners can relate, dancing in six-inch stilettos doesn't really

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