Welcome back, the Tech Policy Podcast.

I'm Corbyn Barthold.

It is my great honor to be joined today by two heroes of free expression,

Jakub Mashan Gama and Jeff Kasev.

Jakob is the founder and executive director of the Future of Free Speech, where Jeff is a

non-resident senior fellow. They have a new bookout, The Future of Free Speech, Reversing the Global Decline of Democracy's Most Essential Freedom.

It is fantastic.

After you listen to this, go buy it, read it, imbibe it, live it.

We're going to talk about the global free speech recession.

We will get into the elite crisis of confidence

in liberal values.

I'm hoping Jeff and Yaacup can reassure me

that larger cultural forces, fragmentation, sectarianism, distrust, what I would call

the rise of a left-right horseshoe liberalism, are not poised to sweep away our most essential

freedom. We'll talk about all that and a whole lot more. It's going to be extraordinarily interesting and I'm very excited to dig in.

Jakob, welcome to the show.

Thank you, Corbin, especially as a big fan of your deep dives.

Excited to be here.

Thank you, thank you.

And Jeff, welcome back to the show. Thanks. It's great to be here. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And Jeff, welcome back to the show.

Thanks. Great to be back.

I've read all of your books, with the exception of Jeff's cybersecurity textbook.

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