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Latter Day Struggles

433: On Churches of Legitimacy & Churches of Transformation

Latter Day Struggles

Valerie Hamaker

Spirituality, Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Religion, Mental Health

4.5859 Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2026

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Send us a Positive Review! Series Title: Religion IS Political [Part III of VII] In this episode Val & Nathan go more "macro" and explain how churches (just like human beings and human civilizations) go through stages of development and that a church will choose its stances of "significant moral consequence" accordingly. In short, if a church is focused on earlier stage legitimacy--its all about preserving its favorite form(s) of dominator hierarchy. If the church has m...

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Save the date. Valerie is hosting her next office hours on May 11th at 12 p.m. Pacific time,

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and this one isn't Ask Me Anything. This is your chance to bring your real questions about faith

0:11.7

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something on your mind, be sure to send it in early. You can email your question to admin at

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0:48.3

Thank you. Friday Fellowship yet, visit latterday struggles.com to enroll today. Hello, everybody. Welcome to Latter Day Struggles. This is Valerie. How are you today?

0:52.7

And how are you, Nathan? I am good. It's good to be back.

0:55.4

We are on episode number three of a six-part series that I have titled something to the effect of how

1:02.4

religion is political and politics is religious, how these two things are so interconnected that

1:10.4

there's no way that we are being politically

1:12.7

neutral, no matter what we say as an individual or as a church.

1:15.8

Okay, so we are on episode three, as I mentioned.

1:17.8

Nathan, would you just go ahead and give us a little bit of a review of what we talked about

1:21.2

in last Monday's episode?

1:25.0

Yeah.

1:25.3

So we started the whole series by talking about the church's official statement on

1:30.9

political neutrality.

1:32.0

And then we kind of talked about how the basic principle is the church feels like it has

1:37.9

the right to provide moral guidance, but wouldn't want to give any specific guidance on political parties, political candidates, or laws,

1:48.1

unless they feel like it either crosses into their territory of morality or somehow affects

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