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🗓️ 24 September 2020
⏱️ 48 minutes
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0:00.0 | I've heard the argument that paying protection money was part of the cost of doing business |
0:07.6 | in Afghanistan and I think it is a terrible, terrible argument. |
0:14.1 | It's just self-defeating for an organization to pay protection money and not deal with |
0:19.7 | the problem from the start. |
0:21.7 | Gretchen Peters calls herself a recovering journalist. |
0:24.8 | I spent about two decades mostly covering conflict areas in some of the world's garden spots. |
0:32.7 | Including Pakistan and Afghanistan and these days. |
0:37.4 | I'm the Executive Director of the Center on Elisent Networks and Transnational Organized Crime. |
0:42.9 | Also known as Sintak, so Peters is still focused on Afghanistan. |
0:47.8 | A particular focus are the reconstruction projects run by US and other Western firms that |
0:53.4 | have built highways, hospitals and schools. |
0:56.5 | And while paying protection money is a terrible model, she says it often is the model. |
1:03.0 | She recalls the story of a construction manager working there. |
1:06.5 | Then he got a phone call one day from one of his team members saying the Taliban just |
1:11.7 | fired a couple of RPGs that are project nobody's been hurt and so he called up the Taliban |
1:16.5 | commander and said what's the problem? |
1:18.8 | You told us you weren't going to attack us anymore and he said no, no, nobody got hurt. |
1:22.9 | We intentionally missed but your payments do. |
1:26.0 | You need to get over to the Huala market and send me my money and he said oh yes, I'm |
1:29.5 | so sorry and went over and paid the money right away. |
1:32.4 | For the Taliban, Peter says this is standard operating procedure. |
1:36.7 | So the Taliban would fire warning shots when the bills were due and they would often |
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